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Edwards Conundrum
« on: Sunday 30 May 10 09:32 BST (UK) »
I am hoping someone can help as I am stumped as to where to look next. My grandfathers parents are John Edwards b c 1878 and Elizabeth Alice Glossop b c 1876. On their marraige certificate it has John's father as a John Edwards Ships Cook. In the 1911 Census it has John Jnrs place of birth as Liverpool, yet on my Grandfathers attestation papers for the Kings Liverpool Regiment in April 1929 John's nationality is Spanish.

My Grandmother always said there was Spanish blood on my Grandfathers side as he was dark complexioned, black hair brown eyes and his father was also dark complexioned.

Can anyone give any advice on how to proceed with this?
Davies, Elltoft, Eltoft, Johnson, Edwards, Onions

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Re: Edwards Conundrum
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 30 May 10 11:55 BST (UK) »
He could have been born in Spain but a British Subject.
Do you have them on earlier Census entries.?
Where did John and Elizabeth Marry?

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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: Edwards Conundrum
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 30 May 10 12:08 BST (UK) »
Trish, they married in Liverpool Parish Church according to the marriage certificate, they where living in and around the Everton district. I thought about maybe his father serving in the military and him being born abroad, but then why put Liverpool down in the Census return of 1911.
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Re: Edwards Conundrum
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 30 May 10 12:18 BST (UK) »
Maybe that was where he remembers living the most.

I think you need the Marriage Cert to find Parents names.
I have searched for John Edwards born c 1878 Liverpool on the 1881 Census.
Most of the Parents seem Irish.
There is one 3yrd Boarder born Liverpool.

I will look at 1891 as well but without at least a Fathers name and Occp Edwards is a very common name.
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: Edwards Conundrum
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 30 May 10 12:19 BST (UK) »
OOPS silly me Ships Cook.
Ok then it is possible Wife travelled with him and had a child abroad.
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Re: Edwards Conundrum
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 30 May 10 12:36 BST (UK) »
Well this one has me well and truly stumped ??? ::)
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Re: Edwards Conundrum
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 30 May 10 18:21 BST (UK) »
Hi Scouse_mouse,

There's this one  :)

1891 Everton
RG12/2942/42/12
William Roberts H mar 50 bookkeeper
Agnes " wife 56
Maria Edwards daur 17
John " son 12
Albert Roberts    son 3
Ann " daur 9mths
All born L'pool

1881 Everton
RG11/3654/101/18
Agnes Edwards  H wid 27 charwoman
Maria " daur 7
John " son 2
All born L'pool

maidmarion  :)

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Re: Edwards Conundrum
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 30 May 10 18:33 BST (UK) »
Hello,
what is John's occupation on his marriage certificate and also do the witnesses give any clues- any Edwards?  :D

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Re: Edwards Conundrum
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 30 May 10 19:37 BST (UK) »
Following on from maidmarion's find

Lancashire BMD has this marriage

1873   Liverpool St Mary Magdalene
ref Liverpool 2115LP/1/81 (GRO ref Mar 1873 8b.99)
Agnes TRIPP
John EDWARDS
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