1851/61 Census pls - Bate in Rainhill

[EC23]

Hi Rootschatters

I have a George Bate b abt 1821 in 1841 living with his brother (I think) John Bate  in Warrington Road, Rainhill.
I'm trying to find George in 1851 and 61 but not luck.

I've searched for his death but nothing on freebmd

Any pointers are much appreciated

all the best

EC23 

[suzard]

In 1841George is not liviing with John - George Bate is a servant to farmer Richard Swift
Living next door is John /Elizabeth bate and children

Suz

[suzard]

1851 John Bate and family are still living next door to Richard Swift in Rainhill
John gives p.o.b. as Eccleston

Is this where George was born??

Suz

[EC23]

Hi Suz

Yes, George was born in Eccleston too. I had them living together as I had an excel transcription of 1841 of the area and had them at the same road and reference, still could be related though (! I hope)
All the best

EC23
 

[suzard]

there is a possible for George in 1871
image so faint difficult to read in parts
85 Cross St St Helens Lancs
George bate Head M 49 Plate ?maker Eccleston Lancs
Ellen wife 51 C?? Lancs
Thomas son 18 (age transcribed as 4) Brickmaker (or Bookkeeper?) Rainhill Lancs
Emma daughter 13 St Helens Lancs
Amelia daughter (?) 8 (age transcribed as 3) Eccleston Lancs
RG10 3863 52 29

here's the 1841 census

Rainhill lancs
Richard Swift 35 farmer
Esther 35
Sarah 13
Robert 11
Peter 9
Lionel 5
Mary Huley? 40
George Bate 20 M.S.

all b in county

next door
John Bate 30 Farmer
Elizabeth 30
Joseph 10
Thomas 9
John 7
Margaret 5
Ellen 2
Elizabeth 5mths
all b in county

HO107 517 30 Pages 22 & 23 I wondered if maybe Esther married to Richard Swift may be related to the Bate family -Wonder if she was maybe a suister?? just a hunch -absolutely no proof

Suz

[suzard]

so could this be George in 1861??

Image reads Bates as does transcription
Son Thomas is consistent with age, p.ob and surname "Bate" through 1871-1901 census

Flatte? Heath
Eccleston lancs
George "Bates" Head M 39 labourer at glass works Eccleston
Ellen wife 41 Cronton?
Sarah daughter 15Cronton?
Margaret daughter 13 Rainhill
Harriet daughter 9 Rainhill
Thomas son 8 rainhill
Clara daughter 6 Rainhill
Emma daughter 5 St Helens
RG9 2746 27 19

Suz

[suzard]

and in 1851?

St helens Rd Rainhill
George Bate head M 29 Railway Porter Eccleston
Ellen wife 31 Cronton
Sarah daughter 6 Cronton
Margt daughter 3 Rainhill
HO107 2194 184 4

Suz

[EC23]

Hi Suz

Wow, many thanks, I'll have a good look here and try and digest it.

Thanks again for the big efforts here, I'll get my thinking cap on!

all the best

EC