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Edward Daniel CLARKE's children
« on: Tuesday 25 May 10 11:00 BST (UK) »
My g-g-g-grandfather was Edward Daniel CLARKE, the gentleman in my sig photo. He was born in 1769 and died in 1822.

EDC was into family history back about the time he was at Cambridge, either as a student c1790 or when he was professor of Mineralogy there from 1808.

He gave his sons names that had some significance to him, either from his family or friends. I am endeavouring to track down some info about some of the friends, knowing a fair bit already about the family.

1. Edward William CLARKE 1807-1843 - Edward CLARKE, and William RUSH, his grandfathers, or William CLARKE his great-grandfather
2. Unknown died as a baby
3. ditto
4. ditto
5. ditto
6. Paget Wotton CLARKE 1812-1870 - Berkeley PAGET friend of EDC, and Ann/William WOTTON EDC ancestor
7. Beaumaurice Stracey CLARKE 1813-1897 - William Beaumaurice RUSH grandfather, and George STRACEY friend of EDC - referred to as 7th son in some correspondence of the time.
8. Octavius Halford CLARKE 1816-1846 - 8th son, and the Rev Thomas HALFORD
9. Walpole Hammond CLARKE 1817-1840 - Rev Robert WALPOLE, and Ann/William HAMMOND EDC ancestor

The ones I am particularly looking for anything about are Berkeley PAGET, George STRACEY, the Rev Thomas HALFORD and the Rev Robert WALPOLE. Have Googled them and found a little, mainly about Robert WALPOLE who was Rector at Christ Church Marylebone for a number of years.

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Re: Edward Daniel CLARKE's children
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 27 May 10 21:21 BST (UK) »
hi i am researching  a thomas rush born 1900. married bridget in liverpool in 1935. thomas was a violinist and him and his wife worked on cruise ships.

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Re: Edward Daniel CLARKE's children
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 27 May 10 21:51 BST (UK) »
hi i am researching  a thomas rush born 1900. married bridget in liverpool in 1935. thomas was a violinist and him and his wife worked on cruise ships.

Hi

The timeframe and location suggest that any link with William RUSH is unlikely.  Would you  like me to split this post off and put it on the Lancashire board, or have you already posted there?

Kind regards, Arranroots  ;)
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Re: Edward Daniel CLARKE's children
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 27 May 10 22:12 BST (UK) »
no thankyou


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Re: Edward Daniel CLARKE's children
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 04 December 12 17:00 GMT (UK) »
Ian:
With a stroke of luck my post won't go unnoticed despite the lapse between your post and mine. If my records are anything like correct, Edward Daniel Clarke is also my 4x great-grandfather, but not for quite the same reasons as you are! It is about these that I am writing to you in the hope of clearing up a minor mystery.
There is no doubt that my 3x great-grandfather was Rear-Admiral Edward Chappell (1792-1861). On plausible authority I've read that Edward was illegitimate and that EDC was the father, one Elizabeth Chappell (1762-??) being the mother. She was baptised in Hothfield, Kent. The implications are that EDC's relationship with EC may have taken place while he was tutoring Henry Tufton whose family resided in Kent.
Far be it from me to appear to cast aspersions on your ancestors but I wondered whether you can shed any light on Edward Chappell's parentage. Thanks in advance for whatever you may provide.
By way of a footnote, I've had as much difficulty as you to establish reliable data on EDC's legitimate children let alone any illegitimate ones.  As he said of life at large, he was a busy man, perhaps too busy to bother with registering their birth or death!
Best wishes, Guy K

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Re: Edward Daniel CLARKE's children
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 05 December 12 05:50 GMT (UK) »
Guy

Myself and others had come to a similar conclusion, that Edward Chappell was EDC's illegitimate son with Elizabeth Chappell.

I found something about EC that said this as well, that EDC had been tutoring Henry Tufton, and that Elizabeth was working locally or as a servant in the house, and that is how they met.

Can PM you my email address if you like.

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Re: Edward Daniel CLARKE's children
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 05 December 12 12:34 GMT (UK) »
Ian:
Thanks so much for your reply.
I have a feeling that the same version is being relayed. Of course, the version may well be accurate but, without sound corroboration like some mention among EDC's papers and letters, I place it on a similar footing to a conjecture in mathematics -- probably true but not yet proven? If the story is true, I suspect you're right that Elizabeth was a servant of the Thanets. Her son Edward went to sea at the age of 12 and did pretty well despite not having had, apparently, much of an education. He wrote a couple of books about his daring voyages; became a big noise in a shipping concern; and was promoted a Rear in 1858.
I might have added that my relationship to EDC is, at best, distant. Edward Chappell's daughter married a Proby. Their elder daughter married my great-grandfather Armstrong, which was my mother's maiden name.
I'm ashamed to say that PM is an acronym I'm not yet familiar with. Please put me right and I'd be delighted to be in touch with you as long as we don't risk being badgered by the purely curious or the scroungers.
Best wishes, Guy K

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Re: Edward Daniel CLARKE's children
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 05 December 12 19:08 GMT (UK) »
Guy

A PM is a Personal Message that Rootschat members can send to each other, that nobody else can see, and is normally used for sending each other email addresses and other things that are not for the public to see. You click on the little green scroll in the signature to the left under the name of the person you want to send one to and it will open up the personal message screen.

Have sent you a PM.

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Re: Edward Daniel CLARKE's children
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 23 September 17 00:02 BST (UK) »
If anyone out there is still interested in this string, please answer as I have tripped over information that may be of value to you concerning Edward Chappell and EDC.

Ros