Eliza ROBERTS born abt 1834 Liverpool

[suzard]

I can't find the Roberts/marsdens in 1841 and am not having much luck with Eliza!

nearest I can find are:

1851
6 Pleasant Hill St Liverpool
Edward Roberts head M 53 cowkeeper Hope Flints
Marie wife 56 Cheshire
Martha daughter U 23 Cargeley? Flints
ELIZA daughter U 21 Liverpool
HO107 2186 309 2

and then

1861
32 Gardeners buildings Toxteth Park
Edward Roberts head M 56 Cotton Yarn Dresser Bolton Lancs
Mary Ann wife 53 Bolton
ELIZA daughter U 29 Weaver Clifton lancs
Edward son U 22 Grocer Oldham
Sarah Ann daughter 24 Weaver Oldham
Alice Arrowsmith mother in law W 77 Waever Bolton
John Grimshaw nephew 13 weaver Droylsden
Samuel Ki?? assistant 18 grocer New Mills Derbys
RG9 2872 74 11

but then ibn 1851 there is
Butler St Preston
Jane Williams Head U 51 Housekeeper Westmorland
ELIZA ROBERTS servant U 19 Liverpool
HO107 2265 608 35

and 1841

Oldham lancs
Edward Roberts 35 cotton yarn draper
Mary 30
ELIZA 9
Sarah 4
Edward 2
Mary 5mths
Alice arrowsmith 50 Cotton
Sarah Arrowsmith 20cottonweaver
all b in county
HO107 546 37 68

Suz

[DavidHWright]

IGI has a Martha Roberts christened 05 AUG 1827 in Hope, Flintshire. Parents Edward & Maria. Looks like a match to the Edward & Maria who chr Eliza in St Peter's, Liverpool 1830. I also like that they have a Cheshire connection via Maria's birthplace.

Thanks again
David

[suzard]

I liked that one - but Edward's occupation was not quite right.


Do you have Eliza's marriage cert??

If so I wondered who the witnesses are??

Suz

[DavidHWright]

The marriage record is on the Cheshire Parish Records Project database
http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/ here it is
8661101
SAMUEL SHORE bachelor policeman of West Kirby (father George Shore, blacksmith)
married Eliza Roberts spinster of Grange by banns (father's name Edward Roberts, Licensed Victualler)
both signed.  Witnesses were Solomon Hill and Mary Matthews

 
There are a couple William & Mary Roberts living in Neston (close to West Kirby). In 1881 Mary is a widow & a publican - so was William a publican in an earlier census? If so and I can establish a family link to Edward Roberts we might imagine that Edward of Maria moved to Neston to help in the pub. What do you think?

Best Wishes
David