Slafham, Sussex?

[IgorStrav]

The trouble is, Roy, that I'm not so concerned with the birth father of Sarah, as pinning the Cooley/Cork family down in the 1851 - with which my fellow researchers and I have been signally unsuccessful.

I won't make you read all the Scavenger hunt, but basically we have a Richard Cork jnr (born about 1840 in Cudham), and a Daniel Corke (born about 1845 in what is said to be Chelsea by the censuses - no birth/baptism reg found).

We think they're brothers, but can't prove it,although there are occasions where Daniel is living next door to one of the other Cork children, and to Richard Cork senior.

We have the details for Sarah Cooley in terms of her marriage and the entry in the 1861, and also her presence in all the other censuses which include one where her "father" Richard Cork is living with her.

So in the search for this 1851 Census record, which should have most of the Richard Cork/Jane Cooley family together (they're all young children) I thought I would track down Peter Louder/Lowder in this census, just to see if a search of the images in the location would turn anything up (I've already searched a number of census images, because we know the family were in Pyrford, Surrey,  on 23rd February 1851 for the baptism of their son Stephen Cork - and must therefore have been somewhere or other locally just a month or so later).

I'd love to find them in the 1841 too, but the Corke family you mention, and all the other ones we've looked at, don't seem to be them.  They were a travelling family, which may explain it.

So at this point, I suppose my main concern is to see where Peter Louder/Lowder was in 1851 or earlier, and that was why I sought this board's help in pinning down the pob.  For which, and your other suggestions, many thanks!!   

[Roy G]

Travelling families are notoriously difficult to find at any time.  Sometimes they avoided the enumerator, and other times he felt it better to avoid them, so they may not be there, or perhaps they are, but under pseudenym. 
Transcription errors may also come into play, try looking for something like Gooley, Goody or Godley as an alternative.
  Roy G

[IgorStrav]

Thanks Roy, my fellow searcher (descended from Daniel) and I (descended from Richard jnr) will continue to beat our heads against the brick wall.

I don't know whether to be surprised or horrified that Peter Lowder/Louder is also very difficult to find in the 1851.

We have already theorised that there was a great gathering of travellers that year to avoid the census.   

[Yodleg]

Slaugham Ghyll is part of Crowborough in East Sussex near to Crowborough Common and Sweethaws. Until recently (i.e. in the census) Crowborough was part of Rotherfield parish. Slaugham in West Sussex is a different place and although there could be a connection between families from the two places it is unlikely and I would look for a more likely link first.

[IgorStrav]

Thanks for your post, Yodleg.

I haven't got any further since this original thread in tracking down Peter Louder/Lowder, his correct place of birth, or indeed where he - and the members of the family he married into - were in the 1851 census.

It was just another vain tap at my still inpenetrable brick wall.

But your interest much appreciated!

[spower]

I've been looking at some members of the Godley family who are recorded as living in Rotherfield at Slafham. They worked at Crowborough Gate. I believe that Slafham is in the area now known as Crowborough common, which would have been in Rotherfield parish then, and Crowborough Gate is now called Crow and Gate which was then in Buxted Parish. Crowborough is a fairly new parish and is made up of bits of Rotherfield, Buxted and Withyham.
Reg S

[IgorStrav]

Thanks for your interest, Reg.

It's some time since I was beating my head against the brick wall of this family, but I will have another look around Crowborough Common for the 1851 and see if I can find any more Lowder/Louder families