William Buckle, Farnham/Scotton

[Icicle]

Does anyone have any information on the Buckle family from Farnham/Scotton near Knaresborough? Or some ideas on where I go next 

I have William who was born about 1811 on the 1841 and 1851 census living in Dodworth, Barnsley. Occupation Inn keeper.

The 1851 page is almost unreadable except for his birthplace  - Farnham, Yorks. 

There is a Buckle family living in Scotton/Farnham.  He is, possibly, either the son or newphew of Simon b.1779, William b.1787,  Walter b. 1790 or Thomas b.1792. And grandson of William Buckle (1755 -1794) and Sarah Fawcett.

Of course I could be completely wrong  so any help or advice appreciated 

[Evie]

Hi

Can you give me the references for both the 1841 and 1851 census please as I cannot see him at the moment

Evie

[Icicle]

Hi Evie

References as follows:

1841 RG H0107, 1325, folio 10/41 page 16

1851 RG Ho107, 2332, folio 217 page 26

I think he died in 1854.

Any help would be much appreciated 

[Evie]

Thanks for the references - I'll see what I can find.

I see what you mean by the 1851

Evie

[Evie]

This is a difficult one Icicle.

The only William I can see baptised in Farnham was in 1804 to Thomas. Going from the 1841 census William could have been born about 1807. Maybe he got his age wrong by 3 years. I have tried to look for a marriage for Thomas in Farnham but nothing fits. I think the Thomas you mentioned born 1792 will be too late.

It also intrigues me who Mary Chambers is in the 1851 census, have you mangaed to find out at all who she belongs to. Maybe Mary his wife?

Evie

[Gragareth]

Hello Icicle,
The following may be of interest. I've my monumental inscriptions' recordings of St.Oswald's Parish Churchyard  at Farnham, was in West Riding of Yorkshire.
Done in 1981.  One headstone, of William Buckle, year died thought to be 1794. Is worn.  Another headstone of 2 young children of Thomas and Easter Buckle year 1851, and infancy, and 1858.   Daughter Mary in 1851 a.22.  No other persons.  The 2 headstones are close.  Can send exact as copied and checked.  Also made a plan of locations of the MI's.  Several archives received copies.
Gragareth.

[Icicle]

Hi Evie and Gragareth

Thankyou for taking a look at this for me. I feel that I am frustratingly close to solving this. I am sure 'my' William is related to the Buckles in Scotton/Farnham but I don't know how 

I'm going to have another look through my notes tomorrow - I'm sure I've seen the name Easter/Esther Buckle some where - too late tonight to find it. I'll be back to you 

Cheers

Louise

[Icicle]

Hi Guys

I had  a look through my various scribblings and came up with the following:

The easy bit is that in 1841 and 1851 he was an Inn Keeper in Dodworth, Barnsley. His son George and grandson, also William, were Innkeepers and Butchers in Dodworth. I can't find him in the 1861 census but there are two Williams death registered in Barnsley for 1854. His wife was from Darton.

I had a note of the 1804 christening but had a big question mark because it seemed too big a gap from the 1811 birthdate on his census return.

I think you are right Evie that the 1792 Thomas is too late.

Mary Chambers may be a relative of Williams wife Mary, possibly a niece. In 1841 there is a Sarah Chambers living in Darton a widow and Innkeeper. In the household there is a George Buckle, age 20, Butcher. I'm still trying to work out where this George fits in - he not the son of William.

The headstones are interesting. I thought Easter was a mistransciption on the census as she also appears as Esther. Mary their grand daughter married a William Worth in 1847 and they had a daughter Sarah. Mary died in 1851 and William remarried in 1859.

It gets very confusing because William and Sarah named their children William, Thomas, Simon, Walter, Ellen, Sarah and Elizabeth. And his brother Thomas and wife Ellen named their children Mary, John, Elizabeth,Walter, William and Ann 

Maybe my next step is to try and find William and Marys marriage. If she was  from Darton which parish would that come under?

The joys of family research 

Louise

 

[Evie]

Hi Louise

I haven't found much out I'm afraid.

Darton seems to be in the registration district of Barnsley as is Dodworth. On the IGI marriages for Darton are covered from 1700 to 1837, whether they are complete I don't know, but there is no marriage for William and Mary. I am wondering did they marry in Dodworth? I don't think the IGI covers this place but I could be wrong.

You have probably looked this up but the Sarah Chambers, George was staying with in 1841, I believe married Godfrey Chambers in 1803, Darton, her maiden name was Strutt. I had a look at their children but no Mary Chambers came up within the batch number.

Did William and Mary have only two children that you know of?

Evie