Two weeks before Ireland - help appreciated.

[eyshame]

Thanks Shane, i appreciate your help and time. I have Thomas born 1865 and Lawrence 1866 but there may have been children before Thomas who didn't survive so i guess they were married before 1864.
I also think Lawrence died before 1870 as the family were in England by the 1871 census and Lawrence isn't on it so i think he died in Ireland aged 4 or less.
I will now only have less than one hour in Dublin so i won't get to the National Library.
Do you think there is any member who might do a look up for me or is that a long shot?
E.

[shanew147]

I cant think of anyone here on rootschat that has mentioned plans to carry out research for these RC parishes at the moment, so to be honest I think a two week deadline is a bit too short. This could be quite a time consuming search as the approx date of the marriage is not known (other than before 1865) and the marriage may have taken place in the Laragh area or one of the surrounding parishes. These are all on separate microfilms.

Probably the best thing to do is to keep an eye out on the Wicklow and Ireland boards to see if anyone mentions plans to check these particular RC parishes. Records are gradually being added to various websites and it is worth keeping an eye out to see if any marriage records for Wicklow are included. If so I'm sure they will be mentioned on the Wicklow section of Rootschat.

 

Shane

[eyshame]

I guess you are right, unfortunately.
What if they weren't married in Wicklow?
what if they were both born elsewhere in Ireland? Oh dear what a puzzle.
will i ever find the answer?
Thanks for all your help.
E.

[shanew147]

If they were married any distance away from the area where the two known children were born it means searching dozens of parishes instead of just a couple, which makes the search much more difficult. The place to start the search for the marriage is definitely the parish that you know they lived i.e. Laragh/Glendalough at when the children were born, and if the marriage cannot be found there then start on the other parishes surrounding the area. Probably starting with Rathdrum to the south which is the next nearest location for a Carton household at the time of Griffiths.


Shane

[eyshame]

will do Shane as best i can anyway.
I have looked for Lawrences' death between 1866 and 1871 without luck. would there be a reason why his death isn't listed?

[shanew147]

I checked for his death also - but nothing promising in the right sort of area, age or date. Although some early births (mostly 1860s/70s) were missed I think most deaths were generally recorded ok

Do you know a rough timeline for the family ? (when and where they lived etc.)



Shane

[eyshame]

I only know they were in Brockagh in 1865 for sure. I have no address for them as there is none on the Birth Cert. Since Lawrence was born 1866 i don't think they would have moved too far if at all. maybe his death wa one of the few missing.

[shanew147]

As far as I remember the 'address' on the birth was the townland of Brockagh.

Including just the townland as an address or residence on certs was quite common, and possibly meant they lived just outside the town of Laragh (which is in the same townland).

It might be worth ordering a birth cert for Lawrence at some stage to see if the 'address' is the same or there are more details included (or if they family moved..)


Shane

[eyshame]

So i could at least look at images of  Laragh for an idea of where they once lived?