wannan or wannen (formerly censuses in scotland)

[ruthiepoot]

Hi

I found this conversation while searching the Wannan name. I am also researching this tree . I am researching on behalf of a Wannan who must be a relation of yours scotabroad
anyway I was wondering who is Georgina Hepburn born 1855 and listed as John Wannans(b1806) daughter in the 1861 census I believe its the same John wannan who married Margaret Roger and was living with her in 1851 census. but in 1861 Margaret is head of her family without john or eldest son Alexander and John and Alexander have  acquired  a six year old Georgina Hepburn. I don't think john is her father because the only birth for a Georgina Hepburn I found in 1855 lists David W Hepburn as her Father and Margaret Morgan as her Mother. so whats Georgina Hepburns connection to the Wannans? I know I got sidetracked but it puzzled me and I wondered if you had wondered about it to. anyway happy researching all the information you and other have posted about the Wannans has been very helpful. thanks

[scotabroad]

Nice to hear from you, for the moment I don't know who this Georgina Hepburn is but you will find John aged 60 and Alexander aged 25 living under the name of Wannen in Kemback in the 1861 census. Which branch of the family is the person you are looking with?
best regards

[ruthiepoot]

Hi I'm researching for my Partners step Mum. John Wannan is her 2nd Great Grandfather connected like this:

John Wannan (1800 -1872 )
has son
Peter Wilson Wannan (1847 - 1910)
has daughter
Nancy (Agnes) Farmer Wannan (1879 - 1946)
has son
Alexander Mercer (1908 - 1982)
has Daughter (*)

are you related to one of John Wannans children to?
I have a tree for them on Ancestry.com which I could share with you if you use ancestry. (*) will be pleased to hear Ive found someone else reseaching the Wannans.




Added: Names of (potential) living people must not be included on the main open forum to protect people's identity 

[scotabroad]

john wannan m margaret rodger
son Alexander Wannan m Isabella Laing
son Alexander Wannan m Christine Mcnoughton
son Alexander Wannan m Sarah Morris
my mum (*)

that is how I  am related to john and margaret Wannan

Added: Names of (potential) living people must not be included on the main open forum to protect people's identity

Scotabroad, I am not sure if your mother is still alive as you haven't given any dates, so same rules apply here.

[scotabroad]

Sorry, but I forgot to say that I am also on Ancestry.com.

[ruthiepoot]

Thank you for letting me know my mistake 
I know my Mum would love to hear any Wannan stories you know even just rumors she didn't know the Wannan side of her family as her grandparents separated. her Father used to say that the Wannans owed mines in kemback. I see miners on the census but not mine owners. stories about people bring them alive 

[ruthiepoot]

you will find John aged 60 and Alexander aged 25 living under the name of Wannen in Kemback in the 1861 census.

I can't find this, was it on Scotlands people? I've been using the transcribed census on ancestry and the only one I can find that could be him is the one with Georgina Hepburn listed as his Daughter.

[scotabroad]

hi , yes it was on scotlands people, i'll send it to you via a private message. thanks for the link that you sent to me.

[ecksdochter]

Hi, I've just read your message re John Wannan & Georgina Hepburn. Georgina is not related to John or Alexander Wannan. (Ancestry.com Transcription Error) Actual Kemback Census 1861 reads:
"Schedule No:224. Dairsie Bridge. John Wannan, Head, Mar, 60, House Carpenter Master, b Fife, Cupar.
                                                 Alexander  Do.  Son,  Um, 25, House Carpenter,       b Fife, Kemback.
                             (End of the Local Sub-division of the remaining part of the Parish)
Omitted in Schedule No:221. Georgina Hepburn, Dau, Um, 6 Scholar b Fifeshire, Kemback."
(07/04/1861 Wannen, John [Census 1861 433/00 001/00 039] www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk)

     Wannan at Dairsie Bridge is the last entry on Page 39 of this Census. Georgina has been missed out on Schedule No:221. Hepburn Family, Kinnaird Farm and added on at the bottom of the last page after entry for Wannan. This Census can be viewed either at scotlandspeople (Credits) or some Fife Libraries. Dunfermline Library History Dept. & Staff are 1st Class!
     P.S. I too am a descendant of John Wannan & Margaret Rodger   (GGG Grandparents)
                                            Alexander & Isabella Laing            (GG Grandparents)
                                            Alexander & Christina McNaughton (G Grandparents)
     The story in our family is that 3 brothers landed in Arbroath by boat, possibly from Holland, and they've spread out from there. There were certainly Wannans in the Angus area before Fife so maybe that is true. But the earlier Wannans at Tulliallan/Culross disappear about the same time so maybe they sailed up the coast to Arbroath!
Regards.