wannan or wannen (formerly censuses in scotland)

[Gadget]

To summarise the findings so far:

The Alexanders:

An Alexander Wannan married a Margaret Kennedy in 1765, Dundee. They had the following known children in Dundee:

1767 - Agnes
1772 - Alexander - this is the only Alexander baptised 1740-1780 in Scotland on the IGI.
1776 - Robert
1778 - Elisabeth

An Alexander Wannan m. Janet McIntosh in 1798, Coupar Angus. Alexander was 'of Dundee'

According to Janet's death cert, she was 85 when she died, giving a birth year of circa 1772

Alexander and Janet had the following known children:

1799 James
1800 John
circa 1800 Jean/Jane
1802 Christian
1809 David
1810 Alexander
1819 Ann

An Alexander Wannan was buried in Kemback on 1 Jan 1826

On Janet's death cert Alexander is down as being an Overseer of a flax mill. Her address is given as Russellmill, Kemback


Gadget

[Ruskie]

Thanks for the summary Gadget. That is very helpful. 

[scotabroad]

Hi again gadget.
the following is a connection I made when I first start doing the family tree.

James Wannan, who married a Euphemia Sharp in Dundee sometime before 1800 (i can't a date for them)
But what attracted my interested, was that one of their children :
James Ritchie married Agnes Ritchie in 1822 in Aberlenno
had a son james ritchie who married jane Nicoll in 1849,
who subsequently had a daughter Margaret who married William Miller in 1899
but what got my interest was the name of one of their children
jeannie Rodger Miller born in 1879.
 I asked myself could this posibbly be a link to the Margaret Rodger who married John Wannan, son of Alexander Wannan and Janet Mcintosh
The mystery continues,I don't know exactly what could be the connection of the original James to the original Alexander .

Gadget,I just wanted to say that I have already access to quite a lot of the certificates on Scotlandspeople, so if you want, let me know if you want to access something and if I have it, then I could send you a copy.
thanks again.

[Gadget]

I'm a bit confused here:

James Wannan, who married a Euphemia Sharp in Dundee sometime before 1800 (i can't a date for them)
But what attracted my interested, was that one of their children :
James Ritchie married Agnes Ritchie in 1822 in Aberlenno

How was the son called James Ritchie if his  father was James Wannan 

Have you followed up the James Wannan - death/censuses, etc.?

[scotabroad]

sorry about that, i was typing too quickly, his name was just james wannan

[Gadget]

Can't see anything on the censuses so far but I'm on to something that might be interesting.

I've been trying to find the Agnes, Robert and Elisabeth Wannan who are the Alexander(1772)'s siblings. Nothing for Agnes or Robert but I've just found a possible for Elisabeth.

An Elisabeth Wannen married a David Allen in Dundee in 1796.

On the 1841 there is an Elisabeth Wannan in Coupar Angus, aged  60-64 (rounding). Given that many Scots women used their maiden name, this might be the sister.

Nothing else yet.

[scotabroad]

When I looked up the deaths, I got a james wannan died in Dundee in 1830 aged 64, and his job was a weaver.  and I've just noticed on the death certificate of his son James Wannan who was married to Agnes Ritchie, the father's job is noted as being a weaver, I am learning to be a lot more attentive to the detail on these papers than before, do you think that could confirm that it is the same James.
on the original birth lists for wannan, there was a James Wannan born to James Wannan and Elizabeth Donne in 1766 in Kettins, which is somewhere in Perthshire.

I've just read your posting while i was writing this,, Iagree with youfor the Elizabeth, i found a death entry for Elisabeth Wanen, with the name Allan/David Allan in the extra name added on 28.7.1822 in St Cuthbert's Edinburgh Midlothian.

[Gadget]

On James Wannan's (married to Agnes Ritchie)  death cert  what name does it give for his mother?


Sadly, the Couper Angus one in 1841 was likely to be the Elisabeth Wannan born Coupar Angus 1778 - parents Alexander Wannan and Katherine Saunders.

[scotabroad]

It was Euphemia Sharp,
ps, can we scan these documents, and post them partially, or is that forbidden, and when we send a PM, are you able to send attachments.
thanksagain