wannan or wannen (formerly censuses in scotland)

[scotabroad]

Was 1841 the first official census done in Scotland?

[Ruskie]

Apparently it was 1801:

http://www.visitaberfeldy.com/scottish-census.htm

Ooops, sorry I forgot to welcome you to rootschat.

[scotabroad]

thanks, do you know if we have any access to this information, my problem is that I have traced my wannan family back to the marriage of Alexander Wannan from dundee and Janet Mcintoish in coupar angus in 1798, but i can find janet in the 1841 living with her son in kemback, fife, but no trace of her husband, and i have tried to find any traces of his death but to no avail. My problem is to try and confirm his parents; once again thanks for the welcome and for any future help

[Archivos]

I think the census at that time only recorded numbers, rather than names, and I'm not sure how many have survived. 

[Ruskie]

I'm afraid I don't know about access to early Scottish censuses. Maybe someone else with more knowledge will be able to advise you.

I take it you use the IGI and Scotland's People in your research? Is this where you got the information about your ancestors?

Have you seen the entry for Alexander and Janet's marriage?

Have you seen the entries for all of their children?

I know it's pot luck what you get on the old parish registers, but sometimes you can get a little more information such as father's names, occupations or places of birth so it might be worth viewing them all just in case.

Is Janet still alive for the 1851 census? Have you looked for Alexander on the 1851 census?  

If I think of anything else I'll let you know.

I think this post might be better on the Scotland board (the rootschat Scottish researchers are second to none) so I will ask a moderator to move it for you.  

[Gadget]

Hi and welcome 

I've found a baptism of an Alexander Wannan in Dundee on 16 Dec 1772. It's the only one showing for Angus at the approx time.

His parents are given as Alexander Wannan an Marg(are)t  Kennadie (presume -Kennedy).

This might not be him but is is a reasonable match. Do you have the names of his children in birth order and Janet's parents' names? This is often a good guide to parents.


Gadget

[scotabroad]

This was my thoughts too. It seems to be a family where Alexander was always the name of the eldest son, this continued until about 1910. The only problemis that I cannot make a positive connection. But it seems that in some respect anyone bearing the name Wannan are somehow connected, but making positive links before 1800 has proved quite hard, but very interesting at the same time, because before starting on scotlands people, I had never realized the rarety of my mother's name and of the only locations being in and around Fife.

[scotabroad]

comingback to your last posting ruskie, janet died in 1857,her mother's maiden name being Gordon,I have all theinformation concerning their children, althoughtheir births are not on scotlands people, but can be picked up later on marriage and eventually their children's births, and of course eventually death certificates. No trace of Alexander her husband in 1841 or 1851, in1851 I think she was in Cupar and on her death certificate, she is described as a widow

[Ruskie]

Now this is better scotabroad - your post is now on the Scotland board (thanks aghadowey)and you've already got Gadget (one of the best) lending you a hand. 

Can you tell us the children's names in order as Gadget asked? If following the Scottish naming pattern, the first son is named after the father's father. But I suppose if they're all Alexander they'd also be named after the father. 

Are you saying that neither Alexander nor Janet's births/baptisms are on Scotland's People or none of the children's births/baptisms are on Scotland's People?

Are you able to match up the Alexander that Gadget found by his occupation or abode?