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Offline Rockbourne38

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Ellen Elena BUTLER
« on: Tuesday 18 May 10 21:26 BST (UK) »
My great great grandmother was Ellen Elena BUTLER, and she married John James Shufflebottom. We have been told Ellen came to Australia from Cork in Ireland, and travelled on a ship named Resource, and her fare was paid by Mr J.W. Marshall.
We have also been told she came from Cork in Ireland
We would love to have a record of her birth date and place of birth, details of who her parents were, and if possible, information on whether she brought a child with her on the Resource, or had a child prior to coming to Australia, and if she did, whether any father of such a child is shown on any record.
Shufflebottom, Phillips, Stevens, Basing, Vincent, Mowles, Stone, Cribb, Peareth, Davison, Fry, Wise, Peareth, Davison, Lowman

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Re: Ellen Elena BUTLER
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 18 May 10 21:33 BST (UK) »
Hi Rockbourne38

Welcome to RootsChat  :)

You don't give any dates for your Ellen but there is this entry showing on the New South Wales, Australia 1828 - 1842, Bounty Immigrants List:

Ellen Butler, year 1840, Ship RESOURCE, from Cork
Father: Garrett Butler (dead), mother: Joanna

Not sure if this fits with your info.

Monica
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Re: Ellen Elena BUTLER
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 18 May 10 21:37 BST (UK) »
It's not entirely clear to me from that record, if the ship left from Cork (which was a major port at the time) or Ellen was from Cork originally...

If Ellen was born in county Cork you might wish to keep an eye on the (free) website http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/ which is due an update in the next couple of weeks to include parish records for the City and western county. Knowing both parents names should be a great help confirming or ruling out any potential matches..



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Re: Ellen Elena BUTLER
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 18 May 10 21:43 BST (UK) »
Your right Shane, not certain whether Ellen herself came Cork, or simply, last port departure for the ship.

Extensive trees on her, children and husband on Ancestry. Not sure what info would have been included on marriage certs of that period in NSW, to let you confirm her parents; names:

St Thomas Church, Port Macquarie, NSW, Australia - V1841658 25C/1841 SHUFFLEBOTHAM JAMES OR JOHN BUTLER EMMA CK - 5 July 1841.

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Re: Ellen Elena BUTLER
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 18 May 10 21:49 BST (UK) »
If her father was Garrett Butler a Garrett Butler born 1793 died in October 1878 in the Mitchelston Reg District, Cork or Limerick Ireland. Might be worth considering providing she was young enough to have a father born in 1793.

Do you know roughly when she was born?
Researching:

LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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Re: Ellen Elena BUTLER
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 18 May 10 21:50 BST (UK) »
The record for her on the New South Wales, Australia, Assisted Immigrant Passenger Lists states her age in 1840 as 19

edit and Native Place for her is given as 'Cork'


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Re: Ellen Elena BUTLER
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 18 May 10 21:51 BST (UK) »
Her age at marriage from those family trees shows as 21 in 1841, so all would fit with the dates being discussed.

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Re: Ellen Elena BUTLER
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 18 May 10 21:53 BST (UK) »
Just a thought - the Resource manifest details shows father Garrett as deceased so not sure about the possible death you have found Coombs as a possible father, but maybe connected?
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Re: Ellen Elena BUTLER
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 18 May 10 21:54 BST (UK) »
So she was born in about 1820. That Garrett Butler who died in 1878 aged 85 could well have been her father. UPDATE Just seen latest posts about him being dead by 1841.

Luckily the passenger list gave a gem of info such as her parentage.
Researching:

LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain