searching for HERBERT DEXTER

[Ruskie]

I found the same family in 1891 (RG12/2697/62/15).

Father is Thomas, a machine fitter. Herbert is 15 and a warehouseman.  I think we really need to see what his occupation is in 1911.

Peter, it might be worth buying some credits so you can see if this Herbert is a lace maker in 1911.

[petrseaford]

is there any way that this Herbert's military record could be checked . did he serve in Scotland in 1917/18

would think that English people would have been aware if their ancestors were in WW1 and note same in their ancestry.

Do towns in England have rolls to record men from the town who served at war .

regards


peter

[Ruskie]

I had a fiddle with the 1911 and found the same Herbert as above born around 1876.

I added occupation lace* and got only one hit. There are no hits if I change the occupation to "lacemaker" or "lace maker".  

It also looks like he is still living with siblings Ada, Annie and Thomas and mother Sarah, but there may be other people in the household as well.

I also searched by name only, with occupation as lace maker and lacemaker - but got no hits, and lace* got just the one hit as above.

[Ruskie]

Peter if you read back through the post I have suggested that you post a specific request on the Armed Forces board to search for Herbert. One of the experts there may be better able to help with your military questions.

If you go ahead and do this, please post a link to this thread so everyone knows what has already been searched. (to do this simply copy the address bar on this thread and paste into your new thread).

 

[Ruskie]

I see you already had some of this information:
(found on another site)
believe he lived at 32 Sherwin Street Nottingham at time of 1911 Census. he was 35 and single. believe that he joined the R.A.F in W.W.1 and was stationed in Scotland and in 1919 billeted at 23 Water's Street Leith. would love any information at all as he was our grandfather. the only information we have is on a birth certificate stating him to be a lace worker and 2AM in the RAF no 78165 but he is not listed at all in the military that we can find so we are putting our trust in you. the census shows that he had a brother and two sisters - all single and all involved in the garment industry. head of the family was his Mum Jane a widow. please help regards peter

But I think the widowed mother is Sarah ...  And he had 2 brothers and 2 sisters. 

[Ruskie]

And from the Great War Forum:
http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=145070

Have you followed up the advice given here Peter?

[andycand]

Hi

Looking at the medal card for H J G DEXTER Royal Flying Corp, there is nothing to connect him to your Herbert with certainty. Checking on births in England & Wales the only H J G Dexter I could find was Harry James G DEXTER born Oxford Reg Dist Sept Qtr 1898 a bit young for being in France in 1915 but not impossible.

Peter, I think you need to follow up the advice on the Great War Forum from Sotonmate in that his service sheet (for 78165) should be in AIR79/710 at The National Archives Kew, this covers serial numbers 78151 to 78289.

The Military Service Records that were destroyed during the blitz in WW2 were Army records for ordinary soldiers.

Whilst it is possible that the person at 32 Sherwin St Nottingham in the 1911 census is your Herbert you do need to get further information and that might be found at Kew.

Andy

[Ruskie]

Have you checked to see if Herbert was killed during the war? That might explain Euphemia running off to Australia ...

If the Nottinghamshire Herbert, who was single, is the right Herbert, I wonder why he and Euphemia didn't marry. Isn't it the case that if a couple is unmarried and registering a birth then the father has to be present? If Herbert is named as Marion's father he must have acknowledged the fact and you would think he would have done the "decent thing"  . 

Carol, when you wake up, can you check to see if there is any record of Herbert going to Australia?

I also would be interested to find out why after such a long time away, that an elderly Euphemia came back to Scotland in 1959. Did she die in Scotland?

[Ruskie]

Hi

Looking at the medal card for H J G DEXTER Royal Flying Corp, there is nothing to connect him to your Herbert with certainty. Checking on births in England & Wales the only H J G Dexter I could find was Harry James G DEXTER born Oxford Reg Dist Sept Qtr 1898

Andy

I looked for a Herbert Dexter birth but couldn't find any with middle initials anything like JG so I think you've probably got the right chap there Andy.