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John and Mary Pearson (nee Deavis)
« on: Monday 17 May 10 06:11 BST (UK) »
I am researching the family of John and Mary Pearson (nee Deavis) who lived at Penrith, Askham, Westmoreland.  I believe this area is very close to Cumberland, where some of the family worked. Seven of their children, Thomas, John,  Matthew, Richard, Robert, Sarah (m. James William Lugsdin in Australia 1869) and Jane (married Thomas Fletcher) all emigrated to Victoria, Australia c. 1860 - 1870.

A number of siblings remained at home, including one other son James, and daughters Margaret Mary and Barbara.  Barbara married a Taylor.
I would like to check the years and birth dates that the known siblings were born, and if there were any others. My list is as follows: Thomas 1827, Margaret 1829, John 1831, Matthew 1833, Mary 1835, James and Richard (1837 - did this James die as a baby?) Barbara 1839, Robert 1842, William 1845, Sarah 1847, James 1850 and Jane 1852.

I would also love to find out more details about the siblings who remained at home, who they married and who their families were? There may have been illegitimate children.
We have some family information, but conflicting details particularly in relation to Mary.  Was there a sister Mary, who lived to old age?  Our information is that the Mary on our list died as a baby in 1835. Some Australian relatives visited in 1928 and we have photos of Fannie (daughter of James) Nellie and Pollie Pearson.  Also Aunt Mary who was quite elderly at that time and had a likeness to Sarah and Jane.
There is a Lacklison (Lackliason) relationship.  We cant work out who Aunt Mary is, nor who Nellie or Pollie belong to.

Can anyone help me please?
Lyn

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Re: John and Mary Pearson (nee Deavis)
« Reply #1 on: Monday 17 May 10 07:02 BST (UK) »
Having looked at the 1841, 51, and 61 censuses - you have these?- there is a Mary age 7 GRANDDAUGHTER age 7 living with John 60, Mary 51, Sarah 13, James 11 and Jane 9.
Could this be the mystery Mary?

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Re: John and Mary Pearson (nee Deavis)
« Reply #2 on: Monday 17 May 10 07:10 BST (UK) »
Poor Margaret had her hands full.
1871 RG10/5275/42/10
Whitby Stead Askham
John Pearson 72 gardener born Great Strickland Westmoreland
Mary 68 Askham
Margaret dau. 36 Askham
Richard Pearson 70 boarder b Penrith Cumberland
John Davis  92 boarder annuitant b Brough Westmoreland

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Re: John and Mary Pearson (nee Deavis)
« Reply #3 on: Monday 17 May 10 07:29 BST (UK) »
1871 RG10/539/22/11
Lowside Quarter Cumberland
Low Mill House
Thomas Clark teacher of day and Boarders
Lucy sister
Edward Brother
many pupils and
Mary Pearson 18 housemaid born Askham Westmorland.


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Re: John and Mary Pearson (nee Deavis)
« Reply #4 on: Monday 17 May 10 08:34 BST (UK) »
1881 RG11/5181/35/35
Dearham Cumberland
Craiks Road Grocer's shop
James Lacklison 34 Grocer b Loweswater Cumberland
Mary wife 27 b Askham Westmorland
John P son 1 b Maryport Cumberland.

Well we know this is Mary, granddaughter of John and Mary but who are her parents?

This birth certificate would tell you.  From FreeBMD
Mary Pearson Sept 1/4 1853  W. Ward vol 10b page 478

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Re: John and Mary Pearson (nee Deavis)
« Reply #5 on: Monday 17 May 10 08:52 BST (UK) »
Barbara's turn to look after the grandparents
1861 RG9/3958/38/1
High St Askham
John Davies head 82 general labourer Appleby Westmorland
Barbara wife 86 Thelkeld Cumberland
Barbara granddaughter 21 house servant Asham Westmorland

Barbara's marriage to William Taylor
1870 Dec 1/4 West Ward vol 10b page 1075

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Re: John and Mary Pearson (nee Deavis)
« Reply #6 on: Monday 17 May 10 11:34 BST (UK) »
thank you very much Crisane for your prompt  replies.
I dont have any of the censuses and would really like to know who was in the household at each of the 1841 and 51 censuses.
Granddaughter Mary aged 7 in 1861 fits with age if Mary who married James Lacklison is one and the same.  The relatives who visited in 1929 were daughters of Sarah, born 1847, and Mary should have been their cousin, but the photo of "Aunt" Mary Lacklison in 1929 is that of a very elderly lady, about 80 give or take, who they said looked very like Mother and Aunt Fletcher (Jane)  I am feeling that this is our Mary, as some research from some unknown relatives have indicated that this Mary was the illegitimate daughter of Margaret. This fact may have been kept secret from Sarah's family and they may have been told she was an Aunt?  She was much the same age as Sarah and Jane.
Did this James and Mary Lacklison have any more children apart from John P who was 1 in 1881.  I am looking for a Pollie in particular. 

From your information, in 1861, Barbara was living with the grandparents (or could she be visiting on that night?) She marries William Taylor in 1870
Rumour from unknown relatives research also has it that Barbara had an illegitimate daughter Sarah born 3.2.1865, five years before her marriage.  This means there were 2 Sarahs, our Sarah emigrated in 1964, aged 16 with her brother William aged 18. Who was included in the household of Barbara and husband William Taylor in 1871 - was Sarah there?

1871 census, unmarried Margaret is looking after her parents, possible Uncle and grandfather who was a boarder annuitant.  Wondering what that is?  (Margaret Pearson was buried at Askham with her parents in 1901 aged 75 years, presumably never married - mother Mary died in 1874 and father James in 1875.)  Was Mary the mother, wife of John, a Deavis or Davis?  I have seen it both ways, but Deavis seemed to be the most favoured in Aus.

The youngest son James married supposedly in 1882 possibly to an Annie Kitchen. We know he definately died in 1919 and children we know of were Fannie, James (went to America but came home to fight in the British army in WW1 then went back again) ) Robert (in the British Army and in Germany in 1919) and a possible Mamie.  Would like to know if there were any others, maybe a Nellie? A letter niece Fannie wrote to Sarah in Australia informing her of James death indicated she had been working for a Mr and Mrs Skelton but she had to stay home now and look after Mother and Mamie, who was very unwell, and very young.  She sent thanks from Cousin Sarah for a gift.  It would seem that this Sarah may be the child of Barbara?  she also said that Aunt Mary and Pollie were coming to visit for the summer.

Lots of questions, and heres hoping you may be able to throw some more light on this family for me.  Thanks again. 




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Re: John and Mary Pearson (nee Deavis)
« Reply #7 on: Monday 17 May 10 11:46 BST (UK) »
Was just going to post this when I saw your post.  This may be a little bit of evidence re Mary being Margaret's daughter.
1891 census RG12/4310/20/34
Dearham Cumberland
Maryport Road
James Lacklinson 45 (spelling as on original image) 45 grocer b Lowswater Cumb
Mary 35 b Askham
John P son 11
Robinson son 9
Mary 4
James 1
All children born Dearham
Margaret Pearson 62 Visitor born Askham

marriage for Mary Pearson and James Lacklison Sept 1/4 1878 W. Ward vol 10b page 831

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Re: John and Mary Pearson (nee Deavis)
« Reply #8 on: Monday 17 May 10 12:24 BST (UK) »
yes, age of Margaret fits.  Was she on the 1901 census - she died 9.11.1901, so presumably the census was before that, or was it end of year?
also after posting realised I made a typo with the year Sarah emigrated, 1864, not 1964, but you would have realised my madness!
And,  the birth certificate of Mary that you talked about, how would I do that?  I am very new to this site and to British research.  I know its not the same as Victoria and NSW in Australia.