Robert Moore "of Linton" and his supposed Trade Tokens

[Matt R]

Hello all,

My 10x gt grandfather, Robert Moore, was born 1655 and on some sources such as his will (made 1711, he died 1713) state he was "of Linton", Cambridgeshire. I know he was a grocer and there is a possibility that some so-called "Trade Tokens" were made bearing his name.

Is anybody able to access Linton parish records, who may be able to find out more on Robert, please? i.e baptism? He married Sarah Wilmot in 1682 at Bartlow, after agreeing with her father that he could.

I am slo trying to find out more about him and if this supposed trade token lead adds up to anything.

Thanks for reading,
Matt

[Steph]

Have just got Linton regs and have found:

Robert son of John More bapt 9 Oct 1646 no mother given

Other children baptised as More/Moores at time with a John as parent:
28 Jan 1643 John son of John & Alce
27 Feb 1648 William son of John & Ann

Burials.  A John Moor was buried 11 May 1729, weaver
21 Nov 1709 John, parish clerk
2 Jun 1706 John - no trade given

I could not find a marriage for John.  I have family in this area but they also cross to other nearby parishes, eg Balsham or over border into Essex eg Halstead etc so you might also have to look outside Linton.

Hope this helps

Regards
Steph

[Matt R]

HI Steph,

That looks likely to be my Robert, although it means he would have been in his 30's at the time he married Sarah Wilmott in Bartlow, 1682.

As for his mother's name I cannot say for sure. He had daughters called both Anne and Alice so either indication is cancelled out by the other, however he gave the name Anne to his second daughter, and Alice to his fifth.

Can I ask if the records you have access to are transcribed please? My Moore family in Linton were seemingly relatively moderate in size so I do not know how many would appear in the registers.

Thanks again for this baptism of Robert. I am glad I have a date of baptism for him...right in the middle of the English Civil War no less!

Regards,

Matt

[Steph]

I bought my cd from the Cambridgeshire Family History Society and it contains transcribed registers for St Mary Linton 1559-1950 and also registers for the Linton Independent Chapel.

Other early Moors/Mores from baptisms
1597 8 Dec Agnes d/o John
1596 11 Apr Barnham? s/o John
1599 15 Apr Elizabeth d/o John
1600 24 Jun Robert s/o John & Frances
1619 7 Dec Andrewe s/o Elizabeth base
1625 15 Mar William s/o Robte & Elizabeth
1627 30 Dec Marcye d/o George & Anne
1634 20 Dec Anne d/o Edmunde & Hellen
1635 5 Feb Marye d/o Edmund & Hellen  [BT Ellen]
1637 21 Mar Hellen d/o Edmund & Hellen
1640  13 Dec Edmund s/o Edmund & Hellen
1643 18 Feb  Margaret d/o Edmond & Hellen
1644 28 Jan John s/o John & Alce
1646 9 Oct Robert s/o John
1648 William s/o John & Anne

Marriages:
1581 Moore  Thomas & Ursle Mallyn
1676 Moore Robert & Anne Williamson of Royston

Burials:
1593 21 Mar  More the child of John
1596 18 Apr Barnham child of John More
1597 9 Jan Ann d/o John More
1598 12 June Edward  generosus (gentleman)
1601 10 Jan More John
1604 24 Nov More  Katherine  gent
1608 More 2 Jun More  Frances wid
1628 15 May More  Daniell s/o John & Anne
1631 3 Sept More Anne d/o John & Anne
1677 11 May Moor  Mary of Robt & Anne

I would say that it def. looks as though the Moors came into the parish from elsewhere some time in the late 1500s.  There are Moor/More details at later dates for baptisms etc but I tried to give you details that might help you structure your family in that time frame.  Hope this helps

Regards
Steph

[Matt R]

Steph,

Thankyou for the lists of baptisms, marriages and burials above. The reason why I asked if they were transcribed is I did not want you going through all original images searching for the above entries. It is a shame Robert's mother is not mentioned on his baptism, I cannot say for certain whether his mum was Anne or Alice...as he gave both names to two of his daughters.

I am very grateful for the info you have provided. I wish I could get back further but I think I will have difficulty now. Could I be really cheeky and ask if you could put up some Linton entries for, say, the early 1700's please? I am trying to find Robert's burial which I believe was shortly after 1711 (when he made his Will) and his wife Sarah. It would be good to know when they died as I can home in on a specific time-frame.

I realise this is asking more of you than originally intended but would greatly appreciate any help you could provide

Regards and thanks again for the lookups in the above post.

Matt

[Steph]

I honestly don't mind at all, so many others have done look ups for me that it's nice to return the favour on this site.

I have a burial for Robert Moor 20 May 1713 and it states he was a grocer so this must be the right one also Sarah Moor, widow, buried 11 Dec 1717.

Regards
Steph

PS I know what you mean about transcripts I have Witney regs, some transcribed which are fine others scanned and 'unsearchable' so need reading through!

[Matt R]

Thankyou very much Steph, appreciated once more...or should I say moore *cringe*

That is the couple I am looking for, thanks a bunch

I will send you a PM consequently concerning other names I have in the area...maybe you have some in your own tree!

I shall be in touch shortly through private message. Thankyou very much once again for the lookups you have provided. It is appreciated!

Regards,

Matt

[sillgen]

Trade tokens were very common at that sort of time.   They were issued by traders when there were shortages of coins.   I have a feeling it was connected with a fire at the mint.  The token was in effect a pledge redeemable in goods but not necessarily for coins. These tokens never received official sanction from the government but were accepted and circulated quite widely.
The tokens were usually made of copper or brass, but pewter, lead and occasionally leather tokens are also found. Most were not given a specific denomination and were intended to pass as farthings, but there are also a large number of halfpenny and sometimes penny tokens. Halfpenny and penny tokens usually, but not always, bear the denomination on their face.   We have one for our ancestor who was a dyer in Yorkshire.  It says "Henry King his halfpenny" on it.
Andrea

[Matt R]

Thankyou for your insight, Andrea!

I know the chances of finding one of these tokens is very slim, but it would be nice if one ever ended up in a museum somewhere. I am interested however, in the occupations held by those who used them, obviously modestly wealthy shopkeepers and, like Robert Moore was, grocers and farmers.

I did manage to find Robert mentioned on this here farthing website:

http://www.britishfarthings.com/Tokens/17th-Century/Cambridgeshire/Cambridgeshire.html

Interesting to say the least!

Thanks again for your thoughts

Matt