I can't find Joseph Entwistle - HELP !

[Mobo]

 

On the 1881 Census, Joseph Entwistle is at 37 West Craven St. Salford with his 2nd, (er wife) Frances (nee' Hall, nee' Makin), ('though I can't find any marriage record for them).  Living with them is his son Joseph b. 1863/5 and various members of her family. He is shown as being born about 1829 in Warrington.

Despite this, I can't find him on the 1871, 1861 or 1851 Census returns, despite the fact that on the IGI, there were 2 Joseph Entwistles born around tht time in Warrington.

Can anyone help please - I'm going barmy ?

Thanks
Anne

 

[mersey_view]

Hi,

Have we been in contact before - i am researching exactly the same family !!!!

i will send you a personal mail,

best wishes
Al.

in the 1871 census he is at 28 Newbury Street, Manchester with his first wife Alice (nee Booth)

[ShaunJ]

1871 is indexed as Entwisle in Ancestry - RG10/4038/99/25

[Mobo]

 

Thank you each, where would we all be without the generous folks on Rootschat ?

 

[mshrmh]

Do you now have him on 1851 & 1861, or do you still need him?

[mersey_view]

hi mshrmh,

yes please, i have a list of the children and the marriage -:

Joseph Entwistle married Alice Booth   3/1848  Manchester Cathedral


Joseph Entwistle      baptized 27/ 9/1829   Warrington
Alice Booth           ~  1829               Manchester
      
Children of Joseph Entwistle and Alice Booth   
      
George Entwistle                  3/1853   Salford/Manchester
John Entwistle                      3/1856   Salford/Manchester
Elizabeth Ann Entwistle        3/1860   Manchester
Joseph Entwistle                 12/1862   Manchester
Sarah Ellen Entwistle          12/1868   Manchester


so Joseph & Alice were married by 1851, and in 1861 they should have been in Manchester
according to the children's birthplace. Joseph may have worked on the river, so he could
have been moving around.

[mshrmh]

1851 at 3 Span Court, Manchester as Entwisle
Joseph 23 Dyer born Latchford
Alice 23 Worsted picker Salford
Richard 8months Manchester
plus Hayes family as lodgers. HO107/227/265/23

No luck with 1861, sorry.

[mersey_view]

hi mshrmh,

Thank you for finding the family in the 1851 census.
Richard does not appear to have made it thru to 1871,
there are several possible deaths of a Richard Entwistle in Manchester in the 1850's