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Looking for my 2nd Great grandparents
« on: Friday 14 May 10 15:59 BST (UK) »
Hello to all , I am new to this website and could use some help please ,I am trying to find any information on my 2nd Great grandparents ...here is what I have on them ....Edward Wyatt Christening / January 12 ,1695 / Place ....Great Kyre Worcester, England / when did he die? who was his wife ? Ect. his parents were / Richard Wyatt & Izzard Phillipps {my 1st. Great grandparents} all I have on Richard Wyatt and Izzard Phillipps is their wedding date ...May 19, 1688 / Place ...Great Kyre Worcester, England ..also any information on them would be helpful Please ! Thank you in advance ...Rosebud1   

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Re: Looking for my 2nd Great grandparents
« Reply #1 on: Friday 14 May 10 17:37 BST (UK) »
Hi and welcome to Rootschat

If Edward was your great great grandfather (2xgreat) - would he not have been born a lot later than 1695?

His parents would have been your great great great grandparents (3x great) not your first great grandparents
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Re: Looking for my 2nd Great grandparents
« Reply #2 on: Friday 14 May 10 17:47 BST (UK) »
Hello both

The information Rosebud has posted seems to have been gleaned from the IGI.  Additionally there is the birth of an Izzard PHILLIPS in Cirencester, Gloucestershire which is an extracted record for 1663.  Her parents were William PHILLIPS and Mary.

Rosebud, we generally work backwards from known relatives - once you get this far back you need to go carefully, making sure you have corroborating information - or you could chase the wrong family!

Kind regards, Arranroots  ;)
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Re: Looking for my 2nd Great grandparents
« Reply #3 on: Friday 14 May 10 20:06 BST (UK) »
Hello to all ...here is my line of the Wyatt Ancestors .....My Father / Buford M. Wyatt /Born ..Sept. 14. 1922 / Died .. August 30 , 1988 / Place ..USA /// My Grandfather ...Homer W. Wyatt / Born 1885 / Died 1957 / Place USA /// My 1st. Great George B Wyatt / Born 1846 /Died 1910 /Place USA /// My 2nd. Great James Wyatt / Born 1806 /Died ? /Place Old Swinford Worcester, England /// My 3rd. Great ..John Wyatt /Born 1783 Died 1829 / Place Kiddeminster Worcester, England /// My 4th. Great Thomas Wyatt /Born December 5, 1751 /Died November 18, 1829 /Place Saint Mary , Old Swinford Worcester, England My 5th. Great ..John Wyatt /Born August 2, 1722 / Died January 9 , 1791 /Place old Swinford Worcester, England /// My 6th. Great ...Edward Wyatt / Born January 12 ,1695 / Died ? / Place England / I have made a mistake before saying that my Ancestor was Richard Wyatt ,I know now that was Edward's brother I was looking at , if anyone can help me fill in the blanks , Please do and many thanks ...Rosebud1


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Re: Looking for my 2nd Great grandparents
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 15 May 10 06:59 BST (UK) »
Hi Rosebud, working back from your George Wyatt your Gt Grandfather, there is only this one in Worcs 1851:-

High Park Cradley Worcs (this boarders onto the Old Swinford Parish)
James Wyat HD M 24 Chainmaker born Old Swinford
Ann Wife 24 Old Swinford
Ann DA 4 Cradley
George Son 2 Cradley
Mercy DA 7 Months Cradley

1841 Census High Park Cradley
Samuel Wyat 56 Trace Maker All born Worcs
Ann 54
Joseph 18
John 16
James 14
Thomas 12
Mercy 9
Edward 6

1861 High Park Cradley
James Wyatt HD 34 Chainmaker
Ann Wife 34
Ann DA 14
George Son 12
Ellen DA 8
Samuel Son 4
William Son 2

I think you have the wrong line going back.  You have to be careful, as I have researched the Wyer family from Old Swinford and Cradley, and the names are oftan confused.  The Wyer family were originally from Wyre Forrest area of Worcestershire, I presume this is what you quote as Great Kyre?  HTH from Linell.
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Re: Looking for my 2nd Great grandparents
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 23 June 10 01:42 BST (UK) »
Thank you Linell , for your advice and I know you are right about going slowly with this ,I have got on the wrong track before researching the Wyatt line and I believe this line of Wyatt family you posted isn't my line , I have found out that there are many Wyatt lines out there ..Thank you again and God Bless ...Rosebud1

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Re: Looking for my 2nd Great grandparents
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 13 October 10 07:09 BST (UK) »
Hi Rosebud,

Richard and Issard Wyatt are my direct ancestors X 9 generations. My research suggests:-

Richard b.16 July 1648 Great Kyre d. 1696 / Izzard b. 12 May 1583 Cirencester

Married 19 May 1688 Worcester

They had at least 2 sons; Edward, b. 12 Jan 1694 Kings Sutton, Oxfordshire who married Eleanor Jones b.1690 Great Kyre at Bromyard 1 May 1719, (direct ancestor to us both) and Richard b. 21 Sept 1690 Great Kyre (so there were two Richard's which might have confused you)

(Richard's father was Thomas, b. 1620 Rochford, Worcestershire and his mother was Jane (?) b. 1625

His Grandfather was also called Thomas b. probably 1587 but possibly 1567 Rochford, Worcs.)

I hope that helps

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Re: Looking for my 2nd Great grandparents
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 13 October 10 21:02 BST (UK) »
Hello Rogerjm, I got your email on our Ancestors, I have been looking for any Wyatt family out there that may tie into my line of the Wyatt ,do you have a Isabella Hougham in your line? that was my Great grandmother {Hougham being her maiden name } her nickname was Kizzie and Belle around 1871 she married George Byron Wyatt {my 1st. Great grandfather} Please let me know if we maybe related or not ,Please email me if you can    Thank you I look forward to hearing from you ....Rosebud1
Hi Rosebud,

Richard and Issard Wyatt are my direct ancestors X 9 generations. My research suggests:-

Richard b.16 July 1648 Great Kyre d. 1696 / Izzard b. 12 May 1583 Cirencester

Married 19 May 1688 Worcester

They had at least 2 sons; Edward, b. 12 Jan 1694 Kings Sutton, Oxfordshire who married Eleanor Jones b.1690 Great Kyre at Bromyard 1 May 1719, (direct ancestor to us both) and Richard b. 21 Sept 1690 Great Kyre (so there were two Richard's which might have confused you)

(Richard's father was Thomas, b. 1620 Rochford, Worcestershire and his mother was Jane (?) b. 1625

His Grandfather was also called Thomas b. probably 1587 but possibly 1567 Rochford, Worcs.)

I hope that helps

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Re: Looking for my 2nd Great grandparents
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 14 October 10 11:58 BST (UK) »
Hi Rosebud, good to hear from you.

I believe that our lines of the Wyatt family diverged at Thomas' children and that would make you my 7th Cousin at some remove, so pretty remote relationship.

Your line went down the John Wyatt tree and mine his brother Edward's family, with the common ancestor being Thomas 1752 - .

My direct ancestors remained UK based, with just one great, great uncle going to Australia for the gold rush in the 1880's (but getting married in Atlanta for some reason) and two great aunts going to New York in the 1920's in very different circumstances - one ending up in Queens and the other Manhattan. So we are very much a stay at home bunch in the main.

Good luck with your research

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