canal boatmen and women #2

[Jonah777]

Hi Kerry,
I am new to this board and was directed to this thread from the beginners board, I have found these relatives on the 1901 census, my grandfather and great grandfather and mother, plus relatives living on a canal barge, as he was the captain would there be any way of tracing the name of his boat? any information would be of great help......Many thanks in advance.

Thomas Jones, barge captain born 1850 Tipton Staffs
Elizabeth Jones, wife............1861 Derby
Sarah Ann Jones, daughter........1885 Spon Lane Warwicks
Thomas Jones, son................1887 Platt Lane Shrops
Hanna Jones, daughter............1891 Elsmere Port Lancs
Henry Jones, son (my grandfather)1895 Barton Cheshire

At the time of the 1901 census they were moored in Warwick, at either Emscale or Elmseale wharf. by the 1911 census captain Thomas was deceased and the family had taken up residence in Rochdale Lancs where I still live.

Thanks......paul

[TonyQ007]

Just catching up having found this discussion (both #1 and #2).

We have "boat people" as we affectionately call them by the names of Beauchamp, Lamsden, Allen and Skinner on our tree.  We know of them in the Abingdon/Oxford area, but have no idea which way they were going from there.  It could have been to Coventry, to London (on the Thames) or even to Swindon.

Does this ring bells with anyone?

Thanks,
Tony

[kerry1212]

hi tony give us some names and dates and im sure we could help, skinner is in my tree somewhere

kerry

[kerry1212]

hi paul, you could ask the british waterways museum they may be able to help

kerry

[TonyQ007]

Here's a quick summary, as we currently know it ...

Edward BEAUCHAMP, who is my g-g-g-grandfather in law(!), born about 1800 in Eynsham.  He married Ann Andrews in 1823.  They had six children, four in Eynsham, two in Abingdon.  In 1851, he was a Boatman in Oxford.  In 1881, he was "formerly a boatman from Eynsham".  We can't find Edward or Ann in 1861 or 1871, but we know he died in 1882 and she died in 1878 in Oxford.

Of his children, Fanny BEAUCHAMP married George ALLEN in 1851.  In 1861 she was given as a bargeman's wife, living at Little Marlow with her children.  George hasn't been found (yet!).  In 1871 they are both at the Lock House, Culham.  We've seen pictures of this around this time.  Also in the house was their son George was a "Transshifter of goods" and George's brother William was a boat builder from Abingdon.  We believe George (the elder) had three wives, of which Fanny was the middle one.

Another child, Edward BEAUCHAMP, born 1831, married Hannah SKINNER in 1876, and was a boatman living at Upper Fisher Row, Oxford.  In 1881 he was on a Barge at Abingdon Bridge, Culham with his wife.  Also on that boat were Abel and William LAMBSDEN, given as servants, but we believe they were Hannah's children by her first marriage.

The BEAUCHAMPs and SKINNERs were next door neighbours in the 1851 census.

There's probably a bit more still, but that will do for a start.

(Incidentally, I couldn't get to your website yesterday.  Is it still there?)

Thanks,
Tony

[kerry1212]

hi tony in 1861 edward and ann are on he canal boat "ann", (next door abel skinner is on the boat abel) edward and ann are with children thomas and joseph

kerry

[TonyQ007]

Thanks for your assistance, Kerry.

We've now come across, and bought, the two booklets entitled the Boat People of the Oxford Canal, published by The Eureka Partnership.  These have given us lots more information - they were an excellent investment.  We're also collecting other census records for canal boats in the area.

In ten days time, we're visiting Oxford for a weekend to spend a day in the Record Office and then to spend another day visiting the canal in Oxford and the surrounding area.  We'll probably also visit the Thames in Abingdon or nearby.

Meanwhile, I'm still not succeeding in getting on your website, Kerry.  Is it still there?

Thanks,
Tony

[Gene Hunter]

Here are the relevant baptisms for Thomas Jenkinson Hollinshead:

Dorothy Holyhead bap.11 Jun 1758 Thomas/Ann; Lapley, Staffordshire

Thomas Jenkinson Holinshead 18 Aug 1782 Mother Dorothy; St. Michael Penkridge, Staffordshire.

Lapley is roughly 3 miles west of Penkridge.  Thomas and Ann Hollinshead had four children at Penkridge and a further son at Lapley.  All three of Thomas and Anns' daughters had children whilst unwed.   Thomas and Ann are my 6x great-grandparents.

[jvb]

Thomas Jones, barge captain born 1850 Tipton Staffs
Elizabeth Jones, wife............1861 Derby
Sarah Ann Jones, daughter........1885 Spon Lane Warwicks
Thomas Jones, son................1887 Platt Lane Shrops
Hanna Jones, daughter............1891 Elsmere Port Lancs
Henry Jones, son (my grandfather)1895 Barton Cheshire

At the time of the 1901 census they were moored in Warwick, at either Emscale or Elmseale wharf.

The wharf at Warwick is Emscote.
If you don't already know, Spon Lane is a set of locks on the Birmingham Canal Navigations near West Bromwich (so I think has always been Staffordshire !).
Platt Lane is on the Llangollen Canal near Ellesmere.