lilian semmons

[Cath girl]

Valda,

On the freeBMD site there is a referencce of 3a,680 for the marriage of Charles Samuel Catherall and Lilian SemmOns, since these records are typwritten can we assume that they were transcribed wrongly then? as I would have to let the site know if that is the case?

I agree there are many different spellings of names which can make it difficult to trace distant ancestors and easily go off track into a totally different family.

Lilian was age 19 shen she married in 1900 and was therefore born in 1881(3a,257) and is clearly shown in the 1901 census as living with her husband Charles, then aged 23 at 112 Somerset road, Tottenham, one of the boarders listed was 'Lloyd Wallis' who was married to Charles Catheralls sister Rosina in 1902, (3a,228).(by way of further verification).

She died age 67

[Ruskie]

On the freeBMD site there is a referencce of 3a,680 for the marriage of Charles Samuel Catherall and Lilian SemmOns, since these records are typwritten can we assume that they were transcribed wrongly then? as I would have to let the site know if that is the case?

I agree there are many different spellings of names which can make it difficult to trace distant ancestors and easily go off track into a totally different family.

This is quite obviously the correct family and surname and the slight spelling anomaly is pretty irrelevant.

[Valda]

Hi

FreeBMD has the original pages of the GRO register that has been used for transcription so you can see for yourself. Click on the squiggle to the right of the red info button next to the index entry and that will take you to the original typed entry. There seems no issue with FreeBMD's transcription.

GRO marriage certificates are copies sent to the GRO by local registrars. With the early index volumes which might go as far as 1900 clerks were employed to handwrite the indexes. When these earlier handwritten volumes began to fall apart, temps were employed to type new indexes. Their work was not checked and the old indexes were thrown away.


Regards

Valda

[Cath girl]

thank you Valda,

I had viewed the original index for Lilian on the BMdfree site and I am afraid even though typed the O and or E is obscure in the name semmons/semmens.  So I guess this is where the problem lies.

your explanation of the GRO is helpful too.

Ruskie,

I take your point that it does not matter as we know this is the correct lilian S, but when looking for her parents/ancestors then I am afraid the spelling does matter as there are many different versions of the name lillie and semons/semmons/semens/semmens and so on and it is very easy to go off researching the wrong family.

That of course does matter to the family concerned.

[carol8353]

Lilian was age 19 shen she married in 1900 and was therefore born in 1891(3a,257) and is clearly shown in the 1901 census as living with her husband Charles, then aged 23 at 112 Somerset road, Tottenham, one of the boarders listed was 'Lloyd Wallis' who was married to Charles Catheralls sister Rosina in 1902, (3a,228).(by way of further verification).

She died age 67

If she was born in 1891 and married in 1900 that would make her only 9 when she married 

I think you will find that the birth was in 1881 as found by Valda at reply #5 yesterday.

Carol

[seahall]

Hi Carol. 

If she was born in 1891 and married in 1900 that would make her only 9 when she married 

It said she was 9 on the 1891 census reply 2 from Valda. 

Did you just added some. 

Looks like noted information has got a bit confussed, as we all do at times.

Sandy

[aghadowey]

Sandy- Carol was quoting cath's earlier post (#9) which said Lillian was born 1891.

[seahall]

Hi aghadowey.

I was trying to be diplomatic and changed my wording so it
did not say Cath as putting the in-correct info.

Sorry, it seems to be my day of being mis-understood.

Sandy

[Arranroots]

Sandy it is lovely of you - always looking to pour oil on troubled waters and be diplomatic, as in this case!

Cath, what you should do - and are almost certainly doing - is not just to rely on spellings to confirm or rule out people as possible connections to your family but to seek other corroborating evidence.  As we have seen your ancestors' records might not have been written by them and they might have had little influence over them - or indeed they might not have shared your insistence on a particular spelling - so you might accidentally overlook one of your genuine rellies without meaning to!

How lucky that the two of you appear to be researching the same family though - I hope you can help each other out and possibly leave clues for other researchers who come after you!

Kind regards, Arranroots