Babette Truckenmuller from Wuerttemberg

[illingworth]

Babette was on the 1881 census in England she was aged 17.  It said she was from Wuerttemberg. I only know her father was Michael a  brewer. I would like help on finding out where she was born etc.  I know about her life from 1881 on but not her past - parents siblings etc.

Thanks

Eva

[SwissGill]

Hi Eva,

Came back in the pouring rain with the dogs and as it's a religious holiday here, Ascension, started looking for Babette Truckmüller. Ancestry played up at first but found one or two family trees with Babette on them, one no doubt is yours.

When I looked at the 1881 Census and saw she was working for Frederick Seege and family, I wondered if a connection could be found as very often families brought over relations from Germany to help in the house. This seems likely as Frederick Seege was a Pork Butcher.

Checked out Frederick and Louisa's marriage and found she is a Lindenberger and they married in Bradford in 1857. My great grandfather's sister, Louisa Pfisterer, married a Christian Lindenberger in 1860 in Bradford and I'm sure that they, Christian and Louisa Seege are siblings.

My great grandmother came from Kocherstetten, Künzelsau distict in B-W. and my great grandfather from Künzelsau probably so it could be that Babette Truckmüller was from this area, too.

If I find anything more definite I'll let you know.

Gill
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[illingworth]

Hi Gill

Thanks for your reply.  You say you have found a Babette Truckenmuller on one or two family trees - it does seem a possibility that one is mine - does the tree mention a Michael as her father - he was down as Michael a brewer on her marriage cert in 1888 in Bradford.  I had searched for years for some mention of her before 1881 with no result. She is not on the 1871 so must have come over around 1881.

Do you think if she was a relative of Mrs Steege it would have been put down as such on the 1881 census rather than servant. You could be right as why would she come all the way to Bradford England at so young an age. I notice the other two servants also came from the same place - perhaps they all came over together.

Her daughters were Annie, Eva and Doris I wonder if these names figure in any of the family trees.

Thanks again - I look forward to hearing from you.

Eva

[SwissGill]

Hi Eva

Sorry it's taken so long but printed out search on Truckenmüller and mislaid results.

However, searched again and found a Charles A Truckenmiller who married Anna Margaretha Schellmann 1899 in Wakefield, Yorkshire. That he married Anna Schellmann is proved in the 1901 Census showing his wife as Ann. Children Albert, Fred, Florrie and Annie born during 1901-1905.

A marriage certificate might give confirmation that he's Babette's brother. Charles died 1945 and Anne a little later.

There's also a Marie Truckenmüller who married Martin Sturm 1898 in Bradford. Proof is that there's a Lena Truckenmüller living with them on 1901 Census in Normanton, Yorks.

If you try BMD, FindMyPast and Ancestry use Tro / Tru and also miller, müller and muller.

My head is spinning with the variations - there are also dozens of them in the US. Never heard of the name before though.

Gill

[illingworth]

Hi Gill

Thanks for the information on the Truckenmillers/Truckenmullers.  I have come across Marie before and got her marriage cert ages ago - her father was a different name than Babette's father so I discounted her.  I do know about the Charles A Truckenmillers rather than the Truckenmullers but have never been able to tie them in with Babette - he is not on the 1881 census anywhere - she is the only Truckenmiller/Muller around then.

I've been trying to find out about her for years - she is a complete mystery - I do have her death cert and also her children's birth certs where she is listed as Miller/Truckenmullery, Elizabth Truckenmuller/Muller etc its a nightmare trying to find out about her.

There are supposed to be loads of them in Wuerttemberg but who knows which is mine!

I will get Charles A marriage cert but I don't hold out much hope.

Thanks again

Eva

[Peonie]

Hi Eva,

perhaps it would be worthwhile to order some Mormon films for Künzelsau.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/08ti/

Unfortunately the parish of Künzelsau is not on Familysearch.

Good luck, Peonie

[illingworth]

Thank you Peonie for your e-mail.

Sorry, how do I go about ordering Mormon films for Kunzelsau - never done it before so don't really know what to do.

Bye

Eva

[Peonie]

hi Eva,

you have to find a Mormon - LDS History Centre where you live and then go there to order the film. Their prices are very reasonable. Go to http://www.familysearch.org/eng/default.asp, click Library and then Family History Centres. It's quite easy and they are very friendly and helpful.

Regards Peonie

[illingworth]

Thanks Peonie

I've found out there is a LDS History centre where I live-  not too far away from me.  I will ring them up about details of prices and ordering and opening times.

Thanks again it might be the breakthrough I need for to find out about  this elusive person.

Bye

Eva