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Penshurst Gardens, Edgeware or Barnet?
« on: Sunday 09 May 10 18:41 BST (UK) »
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I am trying to locate a property in Penshurst Gardens where my one of my relations lived in the 1930's. I have the house name but the whole street is now just house numbers.  Does anybody know where I could find out what the names were and the number the house was given?

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Re: Penshurst Gardens, Edgeware or Barnet?
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 09 May 10 18:47 BST (UK) »
You might be able to get a clue from the 1911 census.  If you do an address search for the name of the road.  The schedule would be in order.
Middlesex   Burnett  Clark   Potter    Cleary    Avery    Moore Howard Jode Keating
Norfolk    Rudd    Twite    Hudson    Chapman Moore Spink Adams
Suffolk    Horne    Cadge    Sutton    King    Adams
Essex    Cable    Wright                         Cumberland  Forbes
Somerset Clarke (pre 1800)                  Cambridgeshire Muncey Parcell
Devon  Flashman                                   Limerick    Hannigan
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Re: Penshurst Gardens, Edgeware or Barnet?
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 09 May 10 22:07 BST (UK) »
Hi Dave

I can see if there is a suitable entry on the electoral registers on a future trip to the London Metropolitan Archives.

Can you tell me the surname of the family you are looking for and which year you have identified them as being at that address?

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Sherry-Paddington & Marylebone,
Longhurst-Ealing & Capel, Abinger, Ewhurst & Ockley,
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Re: Penshurst Gardens, Edgeware or Barnet?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 14 May 10 18:35 BST (UK) »
Thanks Dawn and Teaurn.

I have checked the 1911 census but the street does not appear so it must have been built after that.

The property was called 'Marcroft' and the family living there was named was Tuke and they lived there from 1927 to 1930. Unfortunately the husband murdered his wife and son at the property in 1930 and was comitted to Broadmoor so I am not sure the electoral registers would help. However this is source of which I have no experience. If you think you could find something I would be very grateful

I have checked the Distirct Valuers and Local Authority databases but they only record the house numbers.

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Dave


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Re: Penshurst Gardens, Edgeware or Barnet?
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 15 May 10 10:43 BST (UK) »
Hi,
If you've not done it, I'd suggest getting a copy of the will of Iva Tuke of Marcroft, Penshurst Gardens, died 1929 - some details here: http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/33610/pages/3434 (halfway down second column).

If this doesn't reveal the street address, you might try locating press photographs of the scene and work it out from there.

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Re: Penshurst Gardens, Edgeware or Barnet?
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 16 May 10 14:21 BST (UK) »
Thanks Rob,
I have the will and several pages of the police report into the murders but they all refer to Marcroft.  I suspect it may have been before they started numbering streets in this area. I had not thought about trying to find a photograph and tracing it back that way.  I live on the South Coast so I may make my first trip to Kew and look at the complete police report, failing that I can try the papers

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Dave

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Re: Penshurst Gardens, Edgeware or Barnet?
« Reply #6 on: Monday 24 May 10 19:50 BST (UK) »
Hi Dave

I looked at the entry in the 1926 register.

It's a very small street off Hale Lane, none of the houses are numbered but the one you are interested in is most probably the first in the street, or the last, depends where the electoral register people started from I suppose :-\

They are listed in this order

Marcroft, Orwell, Icarus, Weardale and Wrygates

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Re: Penshurst Gardens, Edgeware or Barnet?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 28 May 10 06:21 BST (UK) »
Hi Dawn

Thank you very much for looking at this for me it is most kind. Looking at the street on Google earth, it is now a much longer street than it was then and I suspect that it was just starting to be developed.  I have decided to go to Kew and look at the full police file in the hope there may be a picture in there.

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Dave