St.Clement Danes Birth Reg - look up

[Jud]

Would someone looking up a Birth register at St.Clement Danes Westminster for me please?
John Thomas MASTERS b: c1829.   or his sisters, Harriet b: c1833 and Mary c1836.
His parents were Thomas MASTERS, clinker and Harriet (Jones) MASTERS.

thanks
Jud of AUS

[Valda]

Hi

A clicker is shoe-maker who cuts out the leather for making the uppers.

Civil registration began in England and Wales on 1st July 1837 so all the births listed for this family will only appear in church parish baptismal registers.

1841 census HO107 712/5 folio 19
New Rulland? Street East of Bedford Street Stepney
Thomas Masters 35 Shoe m
Thomas Masters 13
Harret Masters 40
Harret Masters 8
Mary Masters 5
all born Middlesex
adult ages, those over 15, usually rounded down to the nearest 5 on the 1841 census

Stepney is the east side of the City of London as St Clement Dane Westmister is the west side. Westminster parish registers are held at Westminster Archives. They are not part of the Ancestry digitilisation project with the London Metropolitan Archives and the Guildhall Library (except where the LMA hold the Bishop Transcripts - copies of the registers sent to the Bishop every year).

St Clement Dane's baptisms are indexed by the IGI

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers/CountyLondon_including_Middlesex_(N-Z).htm#W

These children's baptisms don't appear.

18th July 1825 St George the Martyr Southwark Surrey
Thomas Masters
Harriat Jones
Bachelor and spinster of the parish
Harriet signed with a cross
Witnesses both signed with a cross William and Jane Hurst

Southwark is just south of the river Thames - again east and nearer Stepney.

What evidence do you have for the family being in the Westminster area for the baptisms of their three children?

Did the family emigrate after the 1841 census? They are more difficult to spot on the 1851 census.


Regards

Valda

[Valda]

Hi

Checking your previous posting you are following this man in Newington Southwark in 1861.

1861 census RG9 342 folio 109
William Grove Aylesbury? Street St Mary Newington
Thomas Masters 31 Head Married Clicker St Clements Middlesex
Harriett Masters 27 Wife Married Newington Surrey
Phoebe Rose Masters 1 Daughter Newington Surrey


20th August 1854 St Mary Magdalen, Bermondsey  Surrey
John Thomas Masters, Full, Bachelor, Clicker, Bermondsey, Thomas Masters, Clicker
Harriet Clark, Full, Spinster, Lane, James Clark, Butcher
Both signed
Witnesses Thomas Masters and Emma Owen?

1st March 1871 St Paul, Westminster Bridge Road Southwark
William Thomas Williams Elstub, Full, Widower, Brushmaker, St Pauls Southwark, Thomas Elstub, Corn metre
Mary Annie Masters, Full, Spinster, St Pauls Southwark, Thomas Masters, Clicker
Both signed
Witnesses Alfred Jones and Susan Limbrey her mark

1861 census RG9 316 folio 139
23 St Thomas Street East  St Thomas Southwark
Thomas Masters 56 Head Married Clicker (Boot maker) London
Sarah Masters 46 Wife Married Cambridge
Sarah Masters 14 Daughter London
Harriet Masters 12 Daughter London
Harriss Masters 10 Son London
John Masters 8 Son London
George Masters 8 Son London


1851 census HO107 1559 folio 200
23 St Thomas Street East  St Thomas Southwark
Thomas Masters 46 Head Married Lodging Housekeeper and clicker Middlesex
Sarah Masters 36 Wife Married March Cambridge
Mary Masters 16 Daughter Middlesex
Sarah Masters 4  Daughter Southwark Surrey
Harriet Masters 2 Daughter Southwark Surrey

17th August 1846  St Mary Magdalen, Bermondsey
Thomas Masters, Full, Widower, Clicker, Surrey Place, Thomas Masters, Cordwainer
Sarah Harris, Full, Spinster, Surrey Place, William Harris, Farmer's steward
Both signed
Witnesses John James Floyd and Sophia Min?

1871 census RG10 628 folio 89
30 Chapel? Place St Mary Magdalen Bermondsey
Sarah Masters 57 Head Widow Waistcoat maker Cambridgeshire
Harriet Masters 22 Daughter Waistcoat maker London
W H Masters 19 Son Telegraph clerk London
John Masters 17 Son Pneumatic  ? Clerk London


1871 census RG10 483 folio 9
Henry Lance Home for Orphan Girls 19 Lansdowne Terrace, Grove Road Bethnal Green
Phoebe Masters 11 Walworth Surrey


Regards


Valda

[Valda]

Hi

Information on Henry Lance and his orphanage established initially for the children of cholera victims from the 1866 cholera outbreak

http://www.peterlance.name/lancelineage/revhenrylance.html

The orphanage was only open between 1867-1871

and the cholera outbreak 1866

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1081893/?page=1


Regards

Valda