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Crook research
« on: Saturday 08 May 10 22:48 BST (UK) »
I am new to this forum, I live in Winnipeg, Canada but I have a direct connection to Crook, through my maternal grandparents. They were John George Beckwith, (Born December 29, 1872 at Bowden Close, Durham) and Edith Annie Fawell (Born February 24, 1877 at Crook). John was the son of James and Christiana Beckwith and Edith was the daughter of Mathew Fawell and Margaret Kidd.  They were married on March 18, 1901, in St. Catherine's Church in Crook. On their Marriage licence, he is listed as an Insurance Agent.  They had three children before leaving England however, the first two, Edna Mae and Lucy, died as infants. My mother was the third, Elsie Beckwith, born March 15, 1903 in Crook.   In 1904, they immigrated to Canada and settled in Winnipeg.   John worked for the Winnipeg Street Railway Co., as a trolley driver, first on horse-drawn trolleys then on the new electric Street Cars.

In 1912, John's wife Edith, along with their infant daughter Edith,  made a trip back to Crook.   While there, she contracted the flu and had to delay her return trip to Canada until she recovered. As a result, she had to take a later ship rather than the one she had originally been booked on, the maiden voyage of the R.M.S. Titanic.  My aunt Edith remarked often that she was a survivor of the Titanic.

In 1916, John joined the army (221st Battalion, Canadian Overseas Expeditionary Force) and went to Europe for World War I. During a battle overseas, the Germans used poison gas on his regiment and he then spent considerable time in an English hospital. As a result of this, he suffered lung problems for the rest of his life.

I have researched maps of Crook for some time, trying to get a sense of what my ancestor's life would have been like in those days. Since the advent of "Google Streets View" I am able to virtually walk down the streets they would have walked on and see the surrounding countryside, not quite as they would have seen it but it would appear that many of the buildings and houses of the late 1800s still exist. From my grand parent's marriage licence, I found that she resided at number 24, West Road and he is shown as living on Emmerson Street.  I have looked carefully at both these streets on Google Streets View but unfortunately I cannot see any house numbers.

I have two questions; Would someone be able to identify for me the house that would have been at 24 West Road in1900 and would that be the same house that would have been there in 1900? I would very much appreciate any help you could give me on this as it is unlikely, at my age, that I would be able to visit England to see the area for myself.

Alan Nelson
Dwhytie, Beckwith, Fawell

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Re: Crook research
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 09 May 10 00:09 BST (UK) »
Hi Alan, welcome to Rootschat!  :)

I see what you mean about Streetview, I can't distinguish any numbers either. I tried looking up the house that was for sale from the estate agent's board but it wasn't listed so looks like it's been sold. I also tried looking up the garage and car sales but unfortunately didn't get anywhere with them either as they're closed. The only thing I could find that showed a house number was a wheelie bin outside one of the modern properties which clearly shows number 16! Unfortunately it looks as if the original number 24 isn't there, unless of course they've been renumbered, which is always a possibility.

Sorry I can't be any better help, at least this will bump your post up the board and perhaps someone who knows Crook will see it and be able to help you further!
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Re: Crook research
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 09 May 10 05:23 BST (UK) »
All I can suggest is you check the 1901 census for the house they lived in. If you can get the number of households from the nearest cross street on the census, you could count the houses on the Google streetview and get a better idea of which house it may be.

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Re: Crook research
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 09 May 10 06:26 BST (UK) »
The 2008 Electoral Rolls for Crook has no number 24 West Rd and there
appears to be a new round-a-bout where 24 may have  been.


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Re: Crook research
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 09 May 10 07:46 BST (UK) »

Hello Alan. There are 4  gravestones for Beckwith at Crook municipal cemetery and 1 at
Hamsterley St James.
The one at Hamsterley is for a Beckwith from Beechburn (now Bitchburn) and that is near to Crook.
If you want the inscriptions just post the request on the Crook thread.
The last request for Crook was on Tuesday so you will see it on this opening page.

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« Reply #5 on: Sunday 09 May 10 09:04 BST (UK) »
You can see the numbers of West Road Crook, and Emmerson Street at http://gis.durham.gov.uk/website/interMAP/viewer.htm just put the names in  'Street' in search.

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« Reply #6 on: Sunday 09 May 10 09:55 BST (UK) »
The map shows 28 West Road Crook DL159PW as the first house, so apparently the houses up to 28 have been demolished, judging by those shown on the earlier maps. You can locate this address by putting in the post code.

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« Reply #7 on: Sunday 09 May 10 12:59 BST (UK) »
This Google Street View shows Number 28 West Road  http://www.rootschat.com/links/08nj/   

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Re: Crook research
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 09 May 10 18:30 BST (UK) »
Thank's for all the help, this is a great site. Someone mentioned a CROOK thread. Is that separate from this one, if so, how do I get on it?
Alan
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