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Kimber or Osment
« on: Saturday 08 May 10 18:34 BST (UK) »
Trying to find a birth record for a Frederick Kimber or could have been Osment 1876 possibly born in Manchester but then living in Somerset.

Struggling to pin him down any ideas

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Re: Kimber or Osment
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 08 May 10 19:10 BST (UK) »
Hi

Sorry to have to ask so many questions but there are a number of Frederick Kimber's and with so little definite info we need to be sure we find the right one for you


What else do you know about him (eg) where did you get his name and birthyear from?

If it was from a marriage cert - what was his fathers name and occupation?

What was Frederick's occupation when he married

Did he have a middle name or was he just Frederick as the 1901 has a Frederick J Kimber aged 27 b Manchester but living in Essex - interior designer and decorator

Where does the surname Osment come from? Is it from the 1891 census entry?

When did he marry and who to?

If he married before 1911 - have you looked for him on the 1911 census as that will give his birthplace

Have you already discounted the 1881 entry for Frederick J Kimber aged 7 b Manchester - parents Charles and Annie?

Births September qtr 1873  Frederick James Kimber    Chorlton  8c 690
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Re: Kimber or Osment
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 09 May 10 12:59 BST (UK) »
Hi,
From his marriage certificate his name is Frederick Harry Kimber age 29 in April 1904 occupation farmer, no Fathers details, this is part of the mystery, he married Edith Ada Mary Darknell in Charlton Musgrove church Somerset.

Looking at the 1891 and 1901 cencus there is a Frederick Osment, nephew to James and Annie Kimber and in 1901 he becomes Frederick Kimber nephew born in Charlton Musgrove. 

James Kimber did have a sister Martha Ann who was married to an Osment so there is a twist in here somewhere but would really like to find hard evidence as to who his parents were and if he really was born in Manchester.

Have looked for birth record with no success, any pointers you could give would be most helpful.

Many thanks

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Re: Kimber or Osment
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 09 May 10 13:11 BST (UK) »
Do you have 1881? Is this him as Osmond?

RG11/2397 Folio 62 Page 17
Barrow Farm, Charlton Musgrove, Somerset

Charles Kimber 52 Farmer 130 acres 1 man 1 boy Dorset Stalbridge
Charlotte 58 Somerset Sth Barrow
Mary 18 Somerset C Musgrove
Frederic Osmond grandson 6 Scholar Frome
Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex
Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire
Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire
Shaw, Marland - Lancashire
Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland
Richards - Neath Swansea
Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs
Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire
Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire
Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs
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Re: Kimber or Osment
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 09 May 10 13:15 BST (UK) »
Could this be his birth?

Frederic Osmond June 1875 Wincanton 5c 490
Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex
Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire
Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire
Shaw, Marland - Lancashire
Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland
Richards - Neath Swansea
Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs
Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire
Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire
Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs
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Re: Kimber or Osment
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 09 May 10 13:19 BST (UK) »
also a possible...
Frederick Henry Kimber mar qtr 1873  Southhampton 2c 13....Henry sometimes  called Harry ....as I say...just a possible..allan ???
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford

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Re: Kimber or Osment
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 09 May 10 13:21 BST (UK) »
There is an Osmond family in Charlton Musgrove in 1861/71 with a son Henry (age 13) in 1861) Isn't Harry an alternative/nickname for Henry?
Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex
Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire
Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire
Shaw, Marland - Lancashire
Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland
Richards - Neath Swansea
Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs
Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire
Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire
Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs
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Re: Kimber or Osment
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 09 May 10 14:48 BST (UK) »
It looks like he possibly was down as Osmond on the 1881 and that would fit with Charles Kimber as his grandfather think that Charles daughter Martha is possibly his Mum.
have found a frederic osmond birth record so might send for that one it seems to be a fit.

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Re: Kimber or Osment
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 09 May 10 17:23 BST (UK) »
The 1911 index for Frederick Harry Kimber aged 35 (1876) matches if you show his birthplace as Manchester

He was living in Wincanton Somerset in 1911
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