Marriage John Elliott, Haverfordwest

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My first ever Rootschat posting

John Elliot married Ann: St Martins, Haverfordwest. I am hoping someone may be able to help with the surname of Ann. I have the date of Jan 31 1830 noted against the marriage, but cannot re-trace where this info was gleaned from - is this correct?

I am also interested in the baptism of their first children, Mary and William who are both listed as the same age (year of birth 1830) in the 1841 & 1851 censuses. Are they noted as twins? Working by the various dates, I suspect they would have been baptised end of 1830/beginning 1831.

Grateful for any help

Bluegenes

[Orielbenfro]

John Elliot married Ann: St Martins, Haverfordwest. I am hoping someone may be able to help with the surname of Ann. I have the date of Jan 31 1830 noted against the marriage................baptism of their first children, Mary and William who are both listed as the same age (year of birth 1830) in the 1841 & 1851 censuses. Bluegenes

May I recommend you to the mrge of John Elliot a widow and Farmer to Ann Thomas a widow at St Martins Haverfordwest on the 31st Jan 1830.

There is no baptism that equate to a William and/or Mary Elliot in 1830 or 1831, my search would appear to be supported by the IGI, which by no means complete can be used to delete others from the area with the same name but are noted with different parents in slightly different years.
Since all mrge pre Sept 1837 had to take place in established church, but baptism and burial where permitted in Chapel, I wonder about non-conformist??
Rgds
Oreilbenfro
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Thank you to Orielbenfro for your reply.

It is impossible to believe this is not the correct marriage, especially connecting the same date!

The fact that both parties were widows means that Thomas would be the married name of Ann - always one step forward and another back! John Elliott didn't have much luck with wifes, as Anne died in 1843, and thereafter John re-married again (to Jane James in 1847).

William and Mary had two siblings,one of which was Sarah, who's baptism in 1834 in St Martins is recorded on IGI, so not sure where that takes me on the non-conformist suggestion, but may still be worth a look. Mary was my 3 x gt grandmother, so I am quite keen to fill in the details.

Regards and thanks for the lead

bluegenes

[Orielbenfro]

I can confirm 3 things to you ;
1. That Sarah Elliot was bapt at H’west St Martin 1834, along side Charles Elliot bapt at H’west St Martin in 1837
2. That as previous there is no reference to the baptism of a Wm or Mary Elliot(t) at H’west St Martin in 1830 or 1831.
3. There is a William Elliot bapt at Marloes 1824 and a Mary Elliot bapt 1830 at Marloes.

I will leave it to make of this what you will. If you believe there is anything I can do further do not hesitate to ask.

Rgds
Orielbenfro
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Orielbenfro

Thank you again for your time. I am not sure there is much more I can do regards Mary Elliot, except hope for a little bit of serendipity in the future.
I don't suppose there is any more you can do, unless you are able to confirm the baptism of John Elliot, which I have in (abt)1796 St Martins, or (abt1794) Camrose?

Best Regards

bluegenes

[Orielbenfro]

the baptism of John Elliot, which I have in (abt)1796 St Martins, or (abt1794) Camrose

I searched today for baptism of John Elliott. Camrose baptism only start in 1795, a quick look did not show an Elliott baptism in the parish upto 1800.
There is a very large gap in H'west St Martin baptism which only restart in 1795 and searched upto 1800 and no Eliott's found.
You could try an email to the NLoW and see if the B.T.'s cover the periods of your interest.
On the off chance I did a search of Marloes to see what I could find and there is an Elliott mrge there in 1791. I have a jpeg of the entry if you are interested.
I think this is all you required on my 'to do' list.
Rgds
Orielbenfro
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Orielbenfro

Thank you for taking the trouble to do this for me. Whilst John Elliot gives his place of birth as St Martins (census 1851) and Camrose (Census 1861), I have always found it worthwhile to pursue other options. I have been going through old notes and find that I have noted that his fathers name was James, but I do not have a mothers name.

If the marriage record shows the grooms name as James, I would certainly be interested in receiving a .jpeg copy, thank you for offering.

Best regards

Bluegenes

[Orielbenfro]

Sorry I failed, the mrge I found was of John Elliott to Margaret Hart in 1791 at Marloes.
Currently I can find no reference to any James Elliott in any contect in Pembrokeshire other than a will of 1765 at Dale.
Rgds
Orielbenfro
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Orielbenfro

Sorry I didn't get back to you to thank you for your efforts, which I do now. I have been folowing a tenuous lead - IGI has thrown up reference to a Sarah Elliott, born abt 1789 to Mr & Mrs James Elliott in St Martins H'west. As this is within 6/7 years of my John Elliott, it is tempting to speculate that this may be John's family, and puts a James Elliott in Haverfordwest at the right time. IGI(LDS) gives the parents births as abt 1757 & 1761 respectively and their marriage in abt 1788.

Are any of these dates/events traceable?

Best regards

Bluegenes