Carlisle Help Please!

[suey]

   It is a pain when you think the original PR will answer all your questions...sadly I've found either one or sometimes both parents are either missing, writing is illegible, or in the worst case pages or whole years are missing.
Ten years worth of registers for St Mary Bow have gone walkabout, so I'm back to c1779 with one of my husbands lines and the rest is speculation.

I had one of mine recently where one side of the page was torn off and the entry simply said Elizabeth dau of...........arrgghhh....dau of who
One of my Sussex families could go back to 1540...if only I could prove it but again several years of the relevent registers are missing.........

Suey

[Peterpimlico]

Hello Suey
Yes, frustrating!!!!!! Isn't it just! I have a record of William's birth via his entry into school (Westminster) in 1734. His age was given as 14 when he entered school making him born in 1720! (for which we have an entry). But! and it is a big but! His father was CHRISTOPHER Harling of Carlisle not William!  ............... rrrrrrrrrrrrrgh.
Regards  ............  Peter

[Gan Yam]

Hi again

I've just been reading your heraldry link and your link to the Kirkby Lonsdale area and realised my husband has Harling's from the Dent/Clapham and Ingleton area of Yorkshire in his direct line.  I haven't done any research on his tree, this has all been done by someone much more dedicated than me.   

I also noticed that there is an IGI entry for Christopher Harling marrying Mary Neal in 1718 in Wrentham in Suffolk - I dont suppose this could be your Christopher?

Julie

[sillgen]

Hi
Just wondered if you had checked for wills Peter?  They sound as if they might have been an affluent family.  There is one for a Christopher Harling gentleman of St James in Westminster in 1749 on the national archives site.
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/
Andrea

[Peterpimlico]

Hello Julie and Andrea
Thanks both for your interest and valued suggestions. There is no doubt about it this forum has the most friendly and helpful people, also many of whom are extremely knowledgeable.

OK. Julie, yes the Suffolk marriage to Mary Neal is the strongest contender for Christopher's Marriage, we have known of this marriage for some years now but just can't prove it conclusively. We have searched for years trying to find Christopher's Christening, we know he was born in 1677 (as per his memorial on my website), but no luck yet, we did wonder if he was born in Carlisle! But there is nothing on the IGI?

Andrea, yes we have his will and also his son's will, Christopher and William respectively. Christopher was a very wealthy London merchant! (all details are on my web site).

The problem is the Carlisle entry for William's birth! Had his father been named Christopher we would have been on firm ground, but the entry gives William as the father! I strongly suspect this is an error! and should have been recorded as Christopher! But at the moment I am at a loss as to wheather there was indeed another Carlisle family of Harlings. Have you noticed any Julie on your researches?

Well Julie that is good news re your husband I would be interested to hear more, we may be related, no doubt we are if we take the Agnus Herlyng 1379 entry as our benchmark.

Any suggestions re the above would be most welcome, and thanks again for your interest.

Regards  ..................  Peter

[XPhile2868]

Hi again

I've just been reading your heraldry link and your link to the Kirkby Lonsdale area and realised my husband has Harling's from the Dent/Clapham and Ingleton area of Yorkshire in his direct line.  I haven't done any research on his tree, this has all been done by someone much more dedicated than me.   

I also noticed that there is an IGI entry for Christopher Harling marrying Mary Neal in 1718 in Wrentham in Suffolk - I dont suppose this could be your Christopher?

Julie

I have Harling ancestors in the Clapham area as well, with links to Giggleswick. This website has deatils of some of them - http://webspace.webring.com/people/vm/midas1996au/harling.html.

Stephen

[Peterpimlico]

Hello Stephen
Nice to have another Harling connction. Your Harling probably originated; or would be first recorded; in the Clapham branch of the family. Greg in Australia (who has the web site you mentioned) and myself also originate from the Clapham branch, most Harlings do, the Ingleton family seem to have died out in the late 17th Century.
Also nice to see your red rose avatar, lol.
Regards  ..............  Peter