James Patterson East Kilpatrick

[htwhlpam]

Looking for any information about James Patterson b. Feb.24th 1805 in East Kilpatrick.

James married Christain Munro b. June 3rd, 1807 in Cathcart.

Any information or help would be appreciated.

Pam

[MonicaL]

Hi Pam

To help us help you better, what sort of info are you after? Do you have their children and census info for example. Are you trying to trace back James Paterson's line to his parents and siblings?

Monica 

[htwhlpam]

Hi Monica,
James Patterson and Christain Munro were married in Cathcart June 9th,1826.
Children:
Eupheamea b. April 1, 1827 ( my paternal gg grandmother)
William b. Feb. 16, 1829
Alexander b. April 21, 1831
All born in Cathcart.

Know they were living in St. Johns NS Canada  in late 1830's

These records come from a family bible.

According to this source James Patterson's father was also named James
and was a Presbyterian minister & professor at the University of Edinburgh.

James father died at age 40.

I'm looking for census records and any information James Pattersons(b.1805) Parents and siblings.

Any help would be appreciated,
Pam

[MonicaL]

Hi Pam

Thanks for the background 

Just re-confirming the details of the births you have for James and Christian. These look to be the christenings from the Old Parish Registers (OPRs) which show on IGI at www.familysearch.org:

1. EUPHEMIA PATERSON  Christening: 22 APR 1827 Cathcart
3. WILLIAM PATERSON Christening: 22 MAR 1829 Cathcart
2. ALEXANDER PATERSON Christening: 12 JUN 1831 Cathcart

The originals from the OPRs are available to view on www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk, a pay to view site for OPR and BMD images (costs are reasonable). You might might get some clues from sponsors, relating to family, at the christenings for the children.

UK censuses for genealogy purposes only begin from 1841, after James and Christian were in Canada from what you have said which is a pity.

I am struggling to see James' birth/christing in East Kilpatrick on IGI (also checked on  Scotlands People). Christian Munro, I think, is more straightforward. This looks a possible entry for her christening:

CHRISTIAN MUNRO Christening: 07 JUN 1807 Cathcart, Renfrew
Parents: ALEXANDER MUNRO and EUPHEMIA MCCLELLAN

These names fit well with the names of James and Christian, linked to Scottish naming pattern.

Monica

[htwhlpam]

Hi Monica,
Thanks for your help! I just contacted the gentleman that has the bible and he will check for any more on James Patterson. I'll let you know if he finds any more clues.
I'll check out the OPRs too.
Thanks again,
Pam

[MonicaL]

Hi Pam

Just a thought 

James and Christian seem to have followed a form of Scottish naming pattern for their children. So far we have immediately following their marriage:

Euphemia - Christian's mother
William - ?
Alexander - Christian's father


Would be good to see what the gentleman who has the bible has to add  I am wondering whether James' father may have been called William rather than James. Just found this entry (submitted on IGI so would need to be verified elsewhere on records):
           
JAMES PATTERSON Christening: 24 FEB 1805 New Kilpatrick, Dunbarton
Parents: WILLIAM PATTERSON and KATHARINE BELL

This date matches what you have from the family bible, but it is a christening date not a birth date, and then the issue of father's name....

Monica

[htwhlpam]

Monica,
I 'm thankful that my dad's side of the family kept to the Scottish naming pattern, it really helped in my research. Although at times it became a bit confusing so many Johns,Roberts,James and Williams!
Still waiting on more information on the Patterson Bible.

I really apreciate you taking the time to check further on James Patterson.
Pam

[htwhlpam]

Monica,
I really think you are right about James father being William.
I emailed the man that has the bible and he is not sure about James being the father of James. The Bible has James Patterson's name in front.
I did some looking at the archives of  the University of Edinburgh and did find William Patterson in that time frame.
Any thoughts?
Pam

[MonicaL]

Whilst not being able to confirm James' father's name from the bible, what confirmation is there on father's occupation (you mentioned earlier he was possibly a Presbyterian minister & professor at the University of Edinburgh). Is this info also from the family bible or another source?

I assume that James's OPR marriage made no mention of father and with his early departure to Canada and young death, unlikely you will find verifiable sources there relating to his family. So, what info you have, such as potential occupation for James' father, may be key 

You could try following through on some of the children showing for a James Paterson and C(K)atherine Bell, the parents of the James we found earlier. This is what shows on IGI:

1. ISABELLA PATERSON  Birth: 12 MAY 1799/ Christening: 26 MAY 1799 Cadder Lanark
2. JOHN PATERSON Birth: 08 MAY 1801 Cadder, Lanark
3. WILLIAM PATERSON Birth: 23 APR 1803 Cadder, Lanark
4. JAMES PATTERSON Christening: 24 FEB 1805 New Kilpatrick, Dunbarton
5. REBECCA PATERSON Christening: 06 MAY 1807 New Kilpatrick, Dunbarton
6. JEAN PATERSON Christening: 22 MAY 1808 New Kilpatrick, Dunbarton

Only Isabella's christening entry shows as actual extract, the rest are all member submitted. I think some of these entries show on Scotlands People as actual extract, including a James. I searched mother's name as *ath* Bell to pick up on spelling variations. Also, it is a single 't' on Paterson on the search.

You may be lucky and find an occupation for the father William from the christening entries which would help.

Monica