Andrew Clark born Glasgow - enlisted in Australia

[Peonie]

Mosher, my problem are John and William, for generations the same names. I have just started to do the female lines and it seems they have been living within cooee of each other because they are all in the missing pages of the 1861 Monmouthshire Census.

Today I read  a story of a small village in Germany on the net and found my father's family in there in 1639. It's really funny, because between 1830 and 1920 each generation moved to a different village. My mother's line, starting 1623 moved 1 km in 1801 and there they stayed.

Good luck, Peonie

[Peonie]

Andrew stated on his enlistment papers (signed 8.10.1815) that he was 21 years 8 months old. From there we got the year 1894. To make sure we have given Andrew jun the right family could somebody please check if Joseph Clark and Andrew sen. have the same parents. Joseph married Christine Jack on 31.12.1886 in Crieff, Lanarkshire.

Thank you, Peonie

[MonicaL]

Hi Peoni

To be 100% certain, you will need to check the marriage entries on Scotlands People, the ptv site for Scottish BMDs.

There are these possible births showing for Andrew Snr and Joseph to parents Andrew Clark and Margaret McCulloch:

1. ANDREW CLARK Birth: 12 JAN 1865 Bridgeton, Glasgow
2. JOSEPH CLARK  Birth: 20 SEP 1867 Bridgeton, Glasgow

A possible for this family in 1881:

Margaret Clark 38 b. Greenock Renfrewshire
Andrew Clark 16, Telegraph Messenger
Joseph Clark 13, Lemonade Van Boy
Christina Clark 9
Maggie Clark 4

Address: 15, Fairley St., Dennnistoun Glasgow

There is a Margaret Clark showing as sister to Andrew in the 1901 census so above census entry would be a good fit.

Monica 

[hume]

Hi Monica and Peonie,

Just to confirm Monica's census findings, I looked at the marriage certificate of Joseph Clark and Christina Jack. They indeed married December 31st 1886 at Crieff.

Joseph said he was 22 at the time (b. c. 1864) and stayed at Tibbermore. He was a ploughman. His parents were Andrew Clark (deceased), brass finisher and Margaret Clark m.s. McCulloch.

Christina was 23 and stayed at Crieff. Her parents were John Jack, a carter and Catherine Jack m.s. Cameron (deceased).

Witnesses to the marriage were Robert Jack and ? Grant.

hume

[MonicaL]

That's great Hume  All confirmed then.  The 1871 census has Andrew and Joseph's father as born in Edinburgh and a brass finisher. Their father looks to have died between censuses, after sister Margaret's death (?).

Monica

[Peonie]

Hi Monica and Hume,

thank you so much for all your help. When I have a bit more time I will go through the censuses for my friend's family.

Regards Peonie

[Moulin]

FAO Peonie/Monica etc.....

I am related to this Jack family who are from Crieff in Perthshire, Scotland - not Lanarkshire. Pleased to correspond with any interested party on this line.



Kenneth Jack

[MonicaL]

Hi Kenneth

Welcome to RootsChat 

I am not related to this line, just helping out with searches. Hopefully Peonie will be back on line here and help to connect to the friend that the research was for.

Monica

[Moulin]

Hi Kenneth

Welcome to RootsChat 

I am not related to this line, just helping out with searches. Hopefully Peonie will be back on line here and help to connect to the friend that the research was for.

Monica

Thank you Monica - I now have Andrew Clark's war record which I will share with family members.

Kenneth.