Thomas Wilkinson b1860 seghill northumberland

[PootleFlump]

Hi, I'm looking for information on my great great granddad Thomas Wilkinson. He was born in Northumberland between 1858 and 1962. On the census he states he was born in Seghill. Also from the census I have found his Mother was Harriet from Barnsley and he moved to west riding of Yorkshire (the present South Yorkshire region). If anyone has any information as to where I could find anything out about his time in Northumberland I would be very greatful especially his baptism record.

PootleFlump

[jorose]

Hi there and welcome to Rootschat! Could you let us know what information you have on him already? (I can see some possibles in the census but it's a common name so we want to be sure we're tracking the right one).

e.g. On which censuses have you found him, where and with who?
      Where did you find his mother's name and do you know when she was born?
      Do you have his marriage certificate or birth certificate and what information is on those documents?
      If you have his marriage certificate, was he married in a CoE church?

[PootleFlump]

Ok,
From the 1881 census I know he was born in Seghill and he was 21 and living in Barnsley. On the 1891 census he's still in barnsley and his Mum Harriet aged 57 born in barnsley is living with him. From his marriage certificate from barnsley is father is Joseph Wilkinson deceased who is a chimney sweep. I'm really looking for his birth and him on the 1861 census.
PootleFlump

[PootleFlump]

Sorry should have said he was married in Barnsley register office but probably as he and his wife already had a daughter

[Daisypetal]

Hi,

What do you think of this?

According to Genuki HAMPOLE was in the Extra-Parochial places for the West Riding of Yorshire, (this might be important later on) and it was about 3.5 miles from South Kirby.

   
Harriett STEEL
Christening:  20 APR 1834 South Kirkby, Yorkshire
Father:  George STEEL
Mother:  Leah



1841  HO107/1325/6  f.36  p.2  Silkstone, Yorkshire    (RD: Ecclesfield,  Sub District: Barnsley)
Old Mill

STEEL,
Geo         35    Labourer
Leah        35
Ann         16 
Elizabeth  14
Mary        13
Martha     11
Sarah        9
Harriet       7
William       6
Thomas     4                All born in County



Marriage
Harriet STEEL    Jun Q 1850    Barnsley    22  4
Joseph WILKINSON with same details.

There are other names with this reference but by checking here, Joseph WILKINSON and Harriet STEEL have the reference number CE22 343.

http://applications.barnsley.gov.uk/service/registrars/Index.asp



1851  HO107/2332  f.291  p.31 Barnsley   
Nook

Joseph WILKINSON    Head    M    22  Coal Miner    Yorkshire Barnsley
Harriet       "             Wife    M    19    Winder              "      Ampole



No sign of any of the WILKINSONs in 1861



1871  RG10/4711  f.11  p.15  Brampton Bierlow, Yorkshire
West Melton

Thomas STEEL    Head    34    Miner        Yorkshire Barnsley
Selina                Wife    31    dos wife     Lestershire Oak Thorpe
Leah                  Daur     9                    Yorkshire West Melton
Clara                  Daur     8                        "              "
Mary                  Daur     6                         "              "
Jane                  Daur     4                          "              "
Willie                   Son     8months               "              "
Thomas WILKINSON  Lodger  12                Northumberland
     

I can't see them in 1861 but maybe the above info will help someone else find them.


Regards
Daisy

[jorose]

Nicely spotted, Daisy!

In 1881 there is a Harriet Wilkinson, 49, living with Henry and Jane (nee Steel) Addy.

[PootleFlump]

Thanks everyone this is great at last I have a berring on who myGreat great grandparents are.
Big thanks to you all!!!!1

[Daisypetal]

This could be a total red herring but some of the details match so well I thought it worth mentioning.


1861  RG9/3450  f.110  p.31  Wombwell, Yorkshire         (Registration district: Barnsley)
3 Allotts? Row
//
Thomas WROTHWELL    Head    Mar    38    Coal miner      Lancashire Bolton
Harriet WROTHELL         Wife    Mar    28                       Yorkshire Ample
Thomas WROTHELL        Son              2                        Northumberland Seghill
/
John KELLY              Boarder    Un     21    Miner             Derbyshire Swadlington
Thos HEEL               Boarder    Un    23    Miner              Yorkshire Wisboro Common
//

The Surname is hard to read I've written it as I see it but it could possibly be WESTHELL or similar.


I wonder if Joseph WILKINSON died and Harriet moved in with Thomas WROTHWELL, times must have been really hard for a miner's widow then maybe it was her best option. I can't see a marriage and I can't see this family after this. Then she reappears as WILKINSON in 1891. 



Seghill was in the Tynemouth registration district and I found this death, but I can't find a burial so don't know how old he was.

Death
Joseph WILKINSON    Sep Q 1859     Tynemouth    10b  123



Lots of maybes and possibles


Daisy

[trish1120]

Excellent work Daisy and Jorose!

The IGI has this Marriage;
George STEEL
Leah HOUSLEY
01 February 1825, Ecclesfield, Yorkshire


Christening;
Leah HOWSLEY, 01 May 1808, Ecclesfield, Yorkshire
Father, MATHIAS


Unfortunately I cannot find Leah/George in 1851 to confirm their POB.