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Re: Durness Parish Register
« Reply #90 on: Wednesday 01 February 06 07:04 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Christine and Andy.  Now I understand...haven't seen that before  ;D

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Re: Durness Parish Register
« Reply #91 on: Friday 03 February 06 04:57 GMT (UK) »
Re Andy posting #82, Mon. 30 Jan. - Lieut Donald Mackay
Hello Andy
As you will see by my 22 December posting; I do have quite a lot of info on Lieut Donald Mackay, son of John, son of Donald, son of William org. and his family, but lacking information on identifying his father John, Just one little piece of information could be the key to a breakthrough, so it would be great if you can post all the info for Lieut Donald MacKay and Rev John Thomson? and John of Borley

You now have me really intrigued as I was unaware of Donald having a marriage prior to Isobel of Borley who died at the time of giving birth to their son John. I have also to discover Lieut Donald’s DOB which is around 1761

Donald later remarried to Sybella Thomson on 12 Sep 1801. I do have Parish DOB records of their seven children.

Looking forward to your posting
Best Wishes
Donald NZ
Mackay of Slannes, Clashneach, Hunleam & general Melness area.
Morrison of Kinlochbervie, Achriesgill, Strathmore, and general Melness area
Ross and McKenzie of Achriesgill, & general Kinlochbervie area.

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Re: Durness Parish Register
« Reply #92 on: Friday 03 February 06 05:05 GMT (UK) »
Re: Alexander Morrison
« Reply #78 on: Monday 30 January 06 14:44 GMT (UK)

Hello Andy
Thank you for the info on Alexander Morrison. The information helps immensely.
I did have a record of Alexander marrying a Marion Mackay but I had no record of where the information had come from, so had to discount the information.
Now that you have come up with all these records gives me some more to think about with Marion

As you will have noticed it was Marion Mackintosh at marriage, Mackay on their first child, second child Mackintosh, third child Mackay and fourth child McIntosh. Why would she keep changing surnames? I see a lot of first names interchange, but it is unusual with surnames.
Andy; have you any thoughts on this one?
I also notice the spelling of Morison, rather than Morrison.
In a letter Alexander wrote he signed himself Morrison, see the following.

"To Mr John N. Barclay, clerk, Tongue. 27 Dec. 1844
Sir, I beg respectfully to enclose  the sum of £2 stg. to go to the credit of Donald Morrison, tenant, Achnahuag, as part payment of the year's rent. Sir, please acknowledge receipt hereof to the above aforesaid Donald Morrison. Yours respectfully, Alexander Morrison. Address: Cumlodden, by Inveraray."

Andy, were all the entries spelt exactly Morison?

Looks as if the family had moved from Arnoboil by the time George was born which I had calculated to have been around 1796
My records showed that Alexander and his family left Arnabol about 1797 for East Loch Hope and then in 1801 had moved to Lettermore from which they were cleared in 1806. Alexander had represented the tenants of Lettermore before Lord Reay when they were being moved. After this they settled in Dianachory and two years later, probably around 1808, moved to Melness.

Regards Donald Morison; my West Moine Mission record # 5. shows his spelling as Morrison. Although registered the same day my records show they were married 23 August 1813 and Margaret baptised 14 Sept 1813
There are two separate marriage dates noted on registration's 5 and 13.
# 5 states Date of marriage to be 14 Sept. 1813
# 13 States; they were married 23 August 1813. Daughter Margaret baptized 14 Sept 1813. That # 13, specifically mentions married 23 August, identifies the actual marriage date, whereas 14 September is the registration of both marriage and date of baptism. In this instance I had based my dates on; 23 August 1813 for marriage, and 14 September 1813, as the date for the recording of both marriage and baptism of Margaret. Do these dates tie in with your info?

For the record, Marion Mackay was the daughter of James and Ann, and Ann was daughter to John of Borley while James is an Uncle to Lieut. Donald Mackay, who we have in another posting.

Recap:
Are the records for Morison actually spelt Morison and not Morrison?
Have you any thoughts on the surname interchange on Marion MacKintosh to Mackay and back to MacKintosh, to Mackay and then McIntosh?
Is there a George Morrison, born about 1796 at either Arnoboil or East Loch Hope?

Thanks again for the info, most appreciated,
Best wishes
Donald NZ
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Morrison of Kinlochbervie, Achriesgill, Strathmore, and general Melness area
Ross and McKenzie of Achriesgill, & general Kinlochbervie area.

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Re: Durness Parish Register
« Reply #93 on: Friday 03 February 06 23:46 GMT (UK) »
Re: Alexander Morrison
« Reply #92 on: Today at 05:05:45 »

Hello Andy
Isn’t it so very typical, more answers create more questions.
Now that I know of Angus Morison alias Macdhonilroy tenent at Dun Dorniceill, Strathmore. On searching the 1879 Reay Rentals, I find he was not a tenant the year earlier. However there was a George Morison who was the major tenant in 1789.

1789 STRATHMORE tenants:. Geo. Morison, £2  15. 10 ; Angus Roy, £1 19 2 ; Angus M'Kay, 18/4 ; John Mackay, 18/4 ; Hugh M'Angus,

I had previously thought this George was probably the father of Donald Morrison who married Marion Mackay. Noted in your research.
Andy, would you have any info on this George Morison of Strathmore? As he was old enough to hold the largest tenancy it is possible this George was born in a similar time frame to Alexander and Angus and may even be a brother.

I had actually put aside these Morrison’s some time ago as they had become very confusing. However since your posting of the info I have sent every spare minute going back over these Morrison records 
There are two George Morrisons one of whom is Alexander's son, these two George’s were living close to one another at Melness, born within the same time frame, around 1800, both married Isabella and had similar named children in similar time frames.
Then there were three Donald Morrison’s, all born in a similar time frame and married Marion’s. This bit of background will give you some idea of how much I appreciate the info you have posted, as every little bit of info assists to unravel these individuals. I guess they never knew the head scratching that would take place a couple of hundred years later by people like ourselves through these similar naming.
Thanks again Andy.

Best wishes
Donald NZ
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Morrison of Kinlochbervie, Achriesgill, Strathmore, and general Melness area
Ross and McKenzie of Achriesgill, & general Kinlochbervie area.


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Re: Durness Parish Register
« Reply #94 on: Sunday 05 February 06 06:18 GMT (UK) »
Hi Andy
I am still working on this Morrison set of families and although this posting is not asking for info, thought I should let you know the info you have posted has been most appreciated by me and resulted in more family jigsaw sections in place.
Andy; Re: your posting of; #36 on: Wednesday 29 June 05 to Michael:
14/04/1778 Donald MacKay, alias Macrobmacemish,in Batlamhish and Elisabeth Mackintosh, alias ninhustianmacnishmaceniconil,in Arnoboll
This Elizabeth has to be sister to: Marion MacKintosh (in Arnoboll) alias ninhustianmacnishiceniconil of your #78 on: Monday 30 January 06 14:44 GMT, posting.
What is interesting is that both Marion and Elisabeth disclose through their marriage patronymics, a parentage of Hugh, Angus and John, but with their children only disclosing Hugh and Angus.
In your #36 posting you mention “not sure where Lettermore is”. Lettermore is situated where the river from Ben Loyal enters Lock Loyal, about eight miles south of Tongue.
Andy, you also mention Neil Macleod’s father being Kenneth. I note the patronymic as being “macnishmacean” to me that reads as Angus son of John. Kenneth would be more like maccenichmacean, macceanichmacean or perhaps maccoinneachmaceon.

Checking out your #36 posting was a real bonus as for me, as it confirms through the patronymic as Marion being of Mackintosh. I still can’t figure out why she was Mackay for two of her children.
Best wishes
Donald NZ
Mackay of Slannes, Clashneach, Hunleam & general Melness area.
Morrison of Kinlochbervie, Achriesgill, Strathmore, and general Melness area
Ross and McKenzie of Achriesgill, & general Kinlochbervie area.

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Re: Durness Parish Register
« Reply #95 on: Saturday 11 February 06 05:39 GMT (UK) »
Andy,
When & if you have time, can you check for me John Gunn Born 31/08/1779
Parents Angus Gunn/Joanna MacLeod. This would be the right time frame for the  John Gunn I am looking for.
He was the father of  John Gunn married to Betsy Gunn 1/11/1851

John Gunn Senior was married to Margaret McAskill but I see arounnd 1779
in Durness there  was a Hector, 1796, Angus 1794, Eupham,1792,Flora 1790
Duncan 1792
Surname MacKaiskil. No Margaret but I am wondering if that could be the spelling I am looking for.

No more clues but would appreciate it if you could have a  look

wini
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Re: Durness Parish Register
« Reply #96 on: Tuesday 14 February 06 15:24 GMT (UK) »
hi andy

looking for info on angus mckay born 1809 immigrated to cape breton and married a cathern ? born 1817 scotland.

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Re: Durness Parish Register
« Reply #97 on: Tuesday 14 February 06 19:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi Donald

Sorry, I have said previously I am not an expert on Gaelic or Patronymics, I am just going by my experiences within my own family. Within my family when I have had a patronymic saying Macnish the father has always been Kenneth.

I would dearly love for someone to give me a crash course in this if there is anyone out there. The other thing is as you probably already know, the amount of mistakes within the register are mistakes made by the parish minister writing things phonetically, so we cannot always rely on what they have written or whether they have written it correctly!

Andy
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Allin - Sutcombe, Devon * Blake - Cornwall, Cardiif * Campbell - Durness * Cockburn - London and Scotland * Elsey - London * Facey -  Holsworthy, Devon * Falconer - Durness and Eddrachillis * Hartfall - Gosport * Hopkins - Barry and Sully * Howell - Cheptow * Larkin - Bromley, Kent * Lambert - Sturminster Newton, Dorset * McDonald - Compton Gifford, Plymouth * Moxley  - St Arvans * Smith - Bethnal Green * Taylor - Portishead * Wickenden - Southsea * Yeo - Cornwall and Devon

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Re: Durness Parish Register
« Reply #98 on: Tuesday 14 February 06 19:06 GMT (UK) »
Hi All

Message for Wini, Will look back into tis for you.

Message for Hillboy, Will let you know asap what I find.

Andy
Surname Interests.

Allin - Sutcombe, Devon * Blake - Cornwall, Cardiif * Campbell - Durness * Cockburn - London and Scotland * Elsey - London * Facey -  Holsworthy, Devon * Falconer - Durness and Eddrachillis * Hartfall - Gosport * Hopkins - Barry and Sully * Howell - Cheptow * Larkin - Bromley, Kent * Lambert - Sturminster Newton, Dorset * McDonald - Compton Gifford, Plymouth * Moxley  - St Arvans * Smith - Bethnal Green * Taylor - Portishead * Wickenden - Southsea * Yeo - Cornwall and Devon