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Re: Durness Parish Register
« Reply #333 on: Saturday 19 January 13 13:14 GMT (UK) »
Hi Kate,
Yes; the alias is a patronymic meaning daughter of William (who was) son of Angus.

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« Reply #334 on: Saturday 19 January 13 13:28 GMT (UK) »
So in this case is Mac 'son of' and 'Nish' a version of Angus, rather than Macnish being one surname?  It is quite difficult to read some of the Gaelic names in the parish records.  (I had wondered if she was daughter of William Macnish, which really confused me!)
Thanks for your help.
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« Reply #335 on: Saturday 19 January 13 14:23 GMT (UK) »
In Gaelic the spelling of nouns (including names) can change in response to their grammatical case. The "starting point" is the nominative case but in the genitive/possessive case the noun is aspirated/lenited (indicated by inserting an H and after the first consonant and inserting an I after the last vowel). So, "mac" (son of) in the genitive case becomes "mhic", pronounced VIC and often shortened to 'ic. Of course, there is no letter H in the Gaelic alphabet and its use in printing takes the place of the aspiration (exhaling) mark. This is a subject in itsself, and one in which i am far from expert. MacNish could be a surname for some people. They do not appear to have used surnames except in formal/legal contexts and most people were identified/referred to in conversation by an eke name, the most common of which was a patronymic. If you send me your email by PM, I will try to find a paper I wrote on this topic some years ago and forward it to you.
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Re: Durness Parish Register
« Reply #336 on: Saturday 19 January 13 14:32 GMT (UK) »
I can see that I have asked a complicated question and that this is a whole new topic!  I will send my email by PM and would be interested to read what you send.

Thanks very much
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« Reply #337 on: Tuesday 29 January 13 20:03 GMT (UK) »
Thanks, Ian for all your help.

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Re: Durness Parish Register
« Reply #338 on: Tuesday 29 January 13 22:01 GMT (UK) »
You are welcome, Kate. BTW, I remember an enquiry a year or so ago about Whytes/Whites of Durness. If it wasn't you, and if you are interested, I will take a look.

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« Reply #339 on: Tuesday 29 January 13 22:52 GMT (UK) »
I can't find the enquiry you refer to but I have asked for help with details about Whytes in Durness.  It is a little while since I looked at my Durness Whyte records.  If you can see the question I asked, then yes please, any help welcome.

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Re: Durness Parish Register
« Reply #340 on: Sunday 03 February 13 22:07 GMT (UK) »
Any one got any insight in to the "hustian" that appears a view times on these records. I'm desended from Jean Morrison for Donn, born around 1790, and who Married Angus Mackay alias Mackenzie.

Now Jean is described at her marriage as "alias nin hustian duin in Cnockbreac" - alais daughter hustian donn in Cnockbreac.

Any thoughts?

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Re: Durness Parish Register
« Reply #341 on: Sunday 03 February 13 22:11 GMT (UK) »
"Hustian" is the Reverend Thomson's phonetic rendition of Uísdean, the Gaelic name equivalent to the English "Hugh"