Mc Bride & Murray

[kazzza]

looking for information on my grandparents & their families.

Donald Murray DOB 17 July 1895 - Stornoway
married married 12 Feb 1915 in GREENOCK in RENFREWSHIRE
Marion Mc Bride DOB 10 Sept 1897 - Greenock.

They migrated to Australia 1926 with 5 of their 7 children..the last 2 being born here in Australia.

Thanks in advance

                        

[crisane]

Do you have their death certificates? This should show their parents.
Which state in Oz did they come to?
I found this on ancestry (Scotlands People would give you the original image)
1901 41 Holmscroft Street Greenock West
Donald Murray 40  shipwright born Stornoway
Catherine 35 wife
Alexander 17 grocer's assistant.
Malcolm15 grocer's message boy
John 13, Donald 7, Agnes 5, Stuart 2, Robert 4 weeks.
Catherine and all the children, except Donald, were born in Greenock.
Donald was born USA.

[kazzza]

thankyou for your immediate reply. i have just found out about Rootschat and i think it will be very valuable.

Both my grandparents died in Victoria, Australia. do you think i should still source their death certificates ?? and do you think they would have their parents info? as they both left Scotland many years ago.

Your information is very similar to what i have on the Murray side
Daniel Lewis ( sometimes called Donald ) b: 12 Jan 1860 - Stornorway @ 8am
married Catherine Mciver b: 17 Feb 1866 -  Greenock - 38 Crawford St @ 1am - who died in her 40's Daniel then remarried Mary..they had no children. The  family home was 9 Newton Street Stornoway.
12 children - Donald the oldest ( my grandfather )- moved to Australia, Roddie ( possibly Roderick )- moved to Canada he was the youngest. 10 in between in no particular order. Alexander, Malcolm, John ( went to USA ), Agnes, Stewart, ( lived in Greenock & married Bessie )  Robert, Catherine ( possibly called Kate )  DOD 1940 had a son called Donnie Manson and at last report lived in Alness, another Roderick ( died as an infant ), Nancy - moved to Australia, unknown.

This information was obtained from a cousin of my mother, living in Canada ( daughter of Roddie )..unfortunately she has no more information and has nothing on th McBride side.

If you know of anythong else or guide me it would be appreciated.


Thanks
K

[crisane]

Hi
If the family I found is yours then Donald born c1894/5 is not the eldest of Donald and Catherine's children.
The family has also been out of the country once - to USA where Donald was born c1894/5.
I haven't found any shipping records for them,  in or out of the UK to US, yet.
I haven't looked for their entry in to OZ yet.
Scotlands People is a pay per view site, google it, or there is a link from Findmypast.

If you go to this site and follow the links to Historical research you can access BDM's for Victoria and download, for a small fee, the information you need
https://online.justice.vic.gov.au

I have no experience of Vic certificates but if they are like the NSW ones , depending on the knowledge of the informant, they can give parents of the deceased names, children's names (both living and dead) how many years in Australia and where from.

I am sure that there will be people coming along to help, with far more knowledge than me, shortly.

[crisane]

   It wasn't Donald who was born in America, it was John b 1888.

1891 Scottish census
Address 4 Duff Street Greenock
Donald Murray 30 Carpenter b Sornoway Ross Shire
Catherine 25 b Greenock
Alexander 6
Malcolm 4
John 2 America

[Gadget]

Hi

I've put a bit of information on the Stornoway Murray/Mcivers for you here:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,432657.msg3153322.html#msg3153322

and previous message

Gadget

Now moved to new topic - see link below 

[elaine447]

Have you looked through the Murray's and the McBride's
on here there is a marriage for a James Murray to a Helen Elizabeth daughter of Charles Manson
http://www.inverclyde.gov.uk/GetAsset.aspx?id=fAA1ADcAMwAyAHwAfABGAGEAbABzAGUAfAB8ADAAfAA1
Elaine

[kazzza]

Thankyou crisane.. i think there is some sort of connection, unsure what until i lay it all out..
Malcolm Murray & Catharine Murray - nee Maciver are father and mother of Daniel Lewis ( sometimes called Donald ) born 12/02/1860


K

[Gadget]

The other postings are now a separate thread:

McIvers of Stornoway:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,453778.0.html

To avoid duplication of effort.


Gadget