Beswick Manchester *Completed*

[mrwilson]

Myself and family are disputing all my mothers siblings.. 11 kids in total and in the vicinity of 20 years age difference between the oldest and youngest.

They lived in Gorton Manchester.  Parents John/Jack? and Mary Beswick (nee Manning), known children - John (oldest?), Agnes, Cyril, Peter, Mary and Margaret the youngest born in 1927.  Possibly a William.

Can only find four children listed on freebdm.

Any help appreciated.

[kooky]

Have you found them in the 1911 census? There should be 2 or 3 children by then.
Then if you know the mothers maiden name it would mean a concentrated effort looking at births.
Kooky

[mrwilson]

There's about a hundred Mary Beswicks listed in the 1911 census in Lancashire alone.. we don't know her place of birth or date. I believe Margaret was a 'change of life' baby..meaning Mary would have been in her forties I suppose.
 The earliest sibling listed on freebdm was born in 1913. As to the other children I don't know why they aren't listed..perhaps records are incomplete.

Births Dec 1913   
Beswick    William    Manning    Chorlton    8c   1351   
Births Jun 1918 
Beswick    Agnes    Manning    Chorlton    8c   1132   
Births Sep 1922   
Beswick    Cyril          Manning    Chorlton    8c   1254    
Births Jun 1925   
Beswick    Veronica    Manning    Manchester S.    8d   174   
Births Jun 1927   
Beswick    Margaret    Manning    Manchester S.    8d   216   

[silvery]

Did you get the marriage certificate?   This would help you trace them back.

John James Beswick to Mary Manning
March quarter 1908 district Chorlton, volume 8c page 1297

[kooky]

Do you have a birth date for any of the older children?
It might be easier to find an Agnes or a Cyril than  Mary.
Alternatively do you have a marriage date for John/Jack and Mary? The cert. could give you Mary's age.
Kooky
Sorry, silvery beat me to it!

[silvery]

On the 1911 there's a John Beswick b 1886 and a Mary Beswick b 1885 - don't know if they're together.  You would need to buy some credits on the 1911 to look at the transcript.  It would be worth it.

http://www.1911census.co.uk/search/tnaform.aspx?4

[silvery]

Did all of the children survive?  Still borns weren't registered then. 

[mrwilson]

No birth dates except Margarets. April 12 or 14th 1927.  No marriage cert..will get one when certain.

Still the question of the missing kids?  


John James Beswick to Mary Manning
March quarter 1908 district Chorlton, volume 8c page 1297
<<<< maybe but allegedly there was @ 20 years diff between oldest and youngest kids..so this wouldn't work unless kids were from a previous marriage?. read it wrong... very well could be!

All agree there was a sibling called John..

so confusing..facts aren't syncing with info handed down.

[mrwilson]

On the right track... thanks people 

census 1911 -
BESWICK, John M 25, wife Mary 26, Children Mary 2, Ellen 1, John 3 months residence Gorton.

So that's 8 kids accounted for including previously unheard of Veronica born/died in 1925. 3 more to find..