Family Search BMDs - problem

[Arranroots]

Yes, I can see the logic.

 

[agho]

Any update on the situation with the civil index? Looking for a marriage in Mayo this morning and none showed up.

[shanew147]

They took the Irish Civil records down around the middle of May and did some work on the system - and it seems to me to be back in operation as before, as I've been able to find the test records that were previously missing (although I've none in Mayo to check).

Some of the searches were always a little inconsistent, especially those by location or county. If an initial search by name, event type, date & county does not show up what you are looking for, it is worth starting with a much broader search - e.g.  just the  name and maybe a date range, then using the filters at the top gradually narrow down the results by event type, location etc


Shane

[agho]

Thanks Shanew147
The broad search of just putting in a name and filtering on results page worked.

[Oaks and Acorns]

I'm still seeing problems with the search. I'd appreciate if someone could check this out.

From http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,457927.0.html

First search for James Quinn, Death/Burial 1916, Dublin. Fill min all the boxes on the search page.

The first result is for James Quinn, b. 1832, d.1916.

Now search again for James Quinn (first name and surname only, no other details). Now use the filters Event = Death, Date = 1910=1919 and Place = Dublin.

James Quinn 1832-1916 does not show up on the list of results.

Also you will note that the 'limited' search lists 17 James Quinn deaths between 1910 and 1919. The 'full' search' when filtered only gives 9 results.

Very worrying. It seems that for some events you need to know the details before doing the search.

Dara.

[aghadowey]

Looks like there are still problems with the site. I did the same search for James Quinn as you did, Dara. That James Quinn doesn't show up if searching by deaths 1910-1919 or births 1830-1839 under Dublin as the place.
Also notice strange places have crept in when narrowing down the search by tabs-
Louisiana, U.S. + Sligo registration district
Malta, Malta   =  apparently Malta registration district!
Tamil Nadu, India + St. Thomas Mount registration district

[HugoBeauchamp]

I too have been puzzled by 'foreign' locations and maybe the following thought may (if correct) help explain the apparent 'problem' - it may not be a problem after all!

WRT the 'foreign' locations showing up on the Civil Registration search results, might this be to do with the way that foreign events of a English/Irish/Welsh subject might have been registered by a Consul notifying the GRO back home of a registerable event of such English/Irish/Welsh subject.

If you look on findmypast .........

http://www.findmypast.co.uk/OverseasStartSearchServlet?searchType=B&group=BIRTHS

particularly under Consular Births for England & Wales you will see what I mean..

In the original Record Search Pilot, if you enter the name 'John Walsh' and the location as India, no dates or events you will the get 7 results all in India. (You can apply filters on the next page if you wish). This makes me think that there is nothing wrong with the index.

I may be wrong but I think these results are the 'overseas' ones that were taken placed at the back of particular quarters/years index. If anyone is visiting Irish life and can look at an Index it might help solve a mystery.............

Any thoughts?

H

[aghadowey]

Some of the 'foreign' locations might be from the overseas registrations but certainly a large portion of the ones I've found actually turn out to be from registration districts in Ireland. Lots of examples were given earlier in this thread, such as 'Bermuda' turned out to be Manor Hamilton registration district (Hamilton, Bermuda = Manor Hamilton).

[shanew147]

I'm still seeing problems with the search. I'd appreciate if someone could check this out.

From http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,457927.0.html

First search for James Quinn, Death/Burial 1916, Dublin. Fill min all the boxes on the search page.

The first result is for James Quinn, b. 1832, d.1916.

Now search again for James Quinn (first name and surname only, no other details). Now use the filters Event = Death, Date = 1910=1919 and Place = Dublin.

James Quinn 1832-1916 does not show up on the list of results.

Also you will note that the 'limited' search lists 17 James Quinn deaths between 1910 and 1919. The 'full' search' when filtered only gives 9 results.

Very worrying. It seems that for some events you need to know the details before doing the search.

Dara.

I think the problem may relate to the number of results being returned. The general James Quinn search without a date returns over 2,000 results and I think the search engine may be restricting the number returned to a certain upper limit....I did find out something about this limit before.. I'll try to find it.

As I understand it any filtering is then based on this initial result set - and if this is restricted, so are are the filter results.

I did a slightly less general search for James Quinn using the years 1914 to 1920 and filtered down  on Event type, years and County and the  death you mentioned is  there ok... that said, the filtering is very definitely inconsistent, so it sometimes necessary to try searches using a couple of different approaches.


Shane