Family Search BMDs - problem

[shanew147]

There certainly looks like some some of an index problems - if I do the Andrew search on the Irish Civil Index and select residences/marriages they all show registration districts but no counties.

I think the change to the display of counties could account for the lack of the place filter, as this function previously worked by country or county, and they have not completed the registration district search function mentioned earlier. As far as I can see the same happens with many (but not all) Births and deaths - and in these cases the county does not seem to be mentioned on the index as it was, but may be stored somewhere behind the scenes on the database but not displayed on the correctly searched records..

Hopefully the addition of the registration district function would help solve this and even enhance searches, as this would allow more focused searches.

Pity their recent upgrade to other records was such a downgrade for us - but it's difficult to complain to them about a resource like this which the provided at no cost to us.


Shane

[kooky]

Thank you Shane for all your efforts with this problem!
Am I correct in thinking that when BLOODTIES mentioned additional info for marriages, he would have been referring to IGI entries, rather than the Irish BMD entries?
Kooky

[aghadowey]

Am now trying to sort out Lamonts, Eden (Ballymoney, Antrim) using the LDS site but again getting strange results as far as 'place' option.
I have a Samuel Lamont (26 July 1874 Ballymoney dist.-19 Jan.1910 Cabra, Ballymoney) and from Will index I can confirm the date and place of death.
I then searched for 'Samuel Lamont' in civil index and get 91 results. Clicking on 'place' option I get 2 options: 4 for 'Down, Ireland' and 4 for 'Northern Ireland, United, Kingdom' - so where are the other results under? Ignoring the 'place' I clicked on 'date' and selected '1900-1910' and found the correct record.
The only reason I found the right one is because I already knew the date and it looks like the Place option might be the problem.

[shanew147]

It has to be related to some sort of County/Registration district look up in their system as I think some records are falling thought the system which in the earlier version established the county a record related to. Previously the applicable county, or counties, were shown beside each record and these would also appear in the options in the places filter choice list.

As an example I have index details an early Dublin marriage record I recently collected from the GRO, and it no longer appears when I search under Dublin, but I do get 9 results on all events and a blank placename search for the following registration districts :

 Borrisokane
 Dublin South
 Bandon
 Middleton 
 Bandon
 Middleton 
 Rathdown
 Dublin South

Yet when I select the places filter I get the choices :
  South Australia (2) [ ?? ?]
  Tiobraid Árann (1)  [Tipperary]
  Tipperary (1)
  Wicklow (1)
 
Which only accounts for 5 of the 9 records - and even with these it is inconsistent

 Rathdown is in both Dublin and Wicklow, so both choices should appear
 Dublin should list with additional options for the Dublin South records
 There's no mention of Co. Cork which should have (4) listings
 


Shane

[shanew147]

....Am I correct in thinking that when BLOODTIES mentioned additional info for marriages, he would have been referring to IGI entries, rather than the Irish BMD entries?
Kooky

not a term I've ever heard of in Civil or Church details, so I presume it's connected to LDS records in some way.


Shane

[kooky]

Thank you! Perhaps Bloodties could elucidate?
Kooky

[shanew147]

sorry misunderstood your post.. didn't realize that BloodTies was a username.

I think these are the records with the additional details that BloodTies refers to :

Births/Baptism :
 http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails&c=fs%3A1584963
Deaths :
 http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails&c=fs%3A1584965
Marriages :
 http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails&c=fs%3A1584964

These are new collections on the pilot site and appear to be extracted Births, Marriages and Deaths, similar to the IGI records.



Shane

[t_creaney]

Don't know if anybody has seen this yet but they have a new BETA site in operation. It's a bit tricky to navigate but I have found some that were missing from the pilot site.

http://fsbeta.familysearch.org/

[shanew147]

I've seen that version of the site, but it seems to have the same problems understanding locations in Ireland.

I think it may use the same database



Shane