William Horne

[nelwild]

Hello,
i think i might have posted about this fella before but i still havent got any further with him,some aspects are very confusing.
I have him first appearing on 1871 born Herne Bay in 1841,wife Emma born 1847 Boughton and two kids.
William Horne marries Emma Coachworth Dec 1862 Faversham.

On 1881 hes mistranscribed William Herne and birthdate changed to 1851,now with Ann unknown.Names and birthplaces of sons confirms hes same person.
Also on 1881 theres an Emma Horne born 1845 Boughton in Kent Lunatic Asylum,described as dealers wife.

On 1891 William is now with Louisa(i think Langford).

On the 1901 hes widowed and living next to his son.

He doesnt appear on the 1911.

Theres a death for a  William Horne in Blean in 1902 age 67,but this wouldnt fit with a birth date of 1842 or 1851.

What id like to find is anything on him pre-1871,who his second wife Ann was(born 1856 Faversham) and what was going on on 1881.
Also why Emma was in the asylum,and what became of her,whether she might have re-married.

Any help with any of this would be greatly appreciated,
thanks,
Nel.

[CatOne]

Theres a William C Horne, born Herne 1852, in 1861 census  -

RG9/523 Folio 88 Page 9
High Street, Herne, Kent
Mary A Horne unm 39 Dressmaker Herne
Richard unm bro 25 Grocers Asst Herne
William C nephew 9 Scholar Herne

Will see if he shows up on other censuses to rule him in or out....

Regards
Cat

[BettyofKent]

There's a baptism in Herne that seems to match the William that Cat has found:
1851 7th December
William Charles
Mother Emma HORNE, single women, Herne Bay.



Betty

[BettyofKent]

There's a Thomas & Sarah HORNE having nine children baptised in Herne, including a Mary & Richard matching the ages in 1861, & an Emma.


Betty

[CatOne]

This must be the family you mean?

1841
HO107/467/6 Folio 6 Page 5
Greenhill? Herne, Kent
Thomas Horn 53 A G Lab Y
Sarah 50 Y
Mary 20 Y
Charles 14 Y
William 11 Y
Richd 8 Y
Emma 5 Y

[CatOne]

In 1891, theres an Emily Young (age 16, born Herne) with William and Louisa, listed as daughter. Tracing her back to 1881 she shows up here -

William Young 43 Ag Lab Herne
Louisa 45 Whitstable
William J 13 Ag Lab Herne
Daniel 11 Scholar Herne
Emily 6 Scholar Herne
Swalecliffe, Kent

So William Young dies? and Louisa Young nee ? is living with your William by 1891 (can't find a marriage)

[gilles]

Hi,

This is about your post re Epps/Humpstone.
This is my family can you contact me
email address removed by moderator - please use the secure personal message system to exchange personal email addresses - thankyou.
I can't find the post again
Cheers,
Carolyn

[casalguidi]

Hi Carolyn

Nelwild appears to have a few topics touching on this family

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,349058.0.html
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,349054.0.html
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,349053.0.html
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,349051.0.html

Casalguidi

[nelwild]

Many thanks for all this,
it all seems to fit,i think im going to have to get the marriage cert of William to Emma Coachworth to confirm my Williams mother.
Also,hes only down as born c1851 on 1881,on the others its c1840.This made me think that the 1881 entry was more likely to be an error.
Id like to discover who the Ann is who hes with on 1881,and why Emmas in the asylum.Also shes described as dealers wife,and hes a chimney sweep on all the census.Both his sons were hawkers though,so maybe he did this as well.
Emily Young nee Langford was the last wife,widow of William.
Anything else greatly appreciated,particularly on Ann,who she might have been,why she was in the asylum,and what became of her,
thanks again,
Nel.