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Re: How long are GRO certs taking?
« Reply #99 on: Thursday 08 April 10 23:17 BST (UK) »
That is a way of tiding things over until I get the full cert.

Elizabeth Snell died in the Sep quarter of 1865 so I noted others on the same page and one was a John Glanville. I found him on the 1861 census in the right district in Clifton, Oxon and I googled his name and found an ONS website had his will index transcribed as having died 13 September 1865 at Clifton. So Elizabeth Snell must have died 5 days either side of him as deaths were usually registered within 5 days of the event.
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SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
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Re: How long are GRO certs taking?
« Reply #100 on: Thursday 08 April 10 23:26 BST (UK) »
It all sounds right to me Ben. That said I have been puzzled of late as loads of people have my grandfather on Ancestry down as dying April 2004. He didn't he died Aug 2003.. I know this as  I was at his funeral! For some reason his death is on Ancestry and registered in Apr 2004? I really havn't a clue why this is. He died in local hospital, nothing overly unusual about it.
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Re: How long are GRO certs taking?
« Reply #101 on: Thursday 08 April 10 23:27 BST (UK) »
I wonder though if it will backfire on them, in as much as where people buy 2 or 3, or more certificates at moment, on a long shot, they may in future buy just one being able to identify easier which is correct. They would obviously then lose even more business and money than now!

Sure, some people do buy a lot of certs until they get the right one, but I bet a LOT more hold back because they can't afford to waste money on wrong guesses.  Don't you think the sales might even increase if people could be more certain of getting the right one first time?

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Re: How long are GRO certs taking?
« Reply #102 on: Thursday 08 April 10 23:33 BST (UK) »
Sloe, you could be right, but I don't know. I rather think the greater amount of people will just add the date and names to their tree, happy in the knowledge they are correct. I would think it would be only the hardcore of devoted genealogists who would buy the actual cert, now they are near ten pounds. It's a lot of money to most families isn't it.

Maybe they could trial a 'Scotlands People' type site for a certain section of the certs, alongside the  new system, see which makes most money, and present the government with the results. I suppose though the law change needed again would block any chance of that though.
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Re: How long are GRO certs taking?
« Reply #103 on: Thursday 08 April 10 23:34 BST (UK) »
Hi folks

I ordered 2 certs from GRO on the 22 March still no sign of them. Ordered 1 same day from Lancashire reg office and it arrived within a few days!!!

When should i expect to see my cert? !!!

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Re: How long are GRO certs taking?
« Reply #104 on: Thursday 08 April 10 23:39 BST (UK) »
I think it all depends on whether this works for them  as to whether we will ever see the images themselves online.

  Two of mine died in the same quarter in Birmingham in 1890, wife on 3 Feb (page 13) and husband on 16 Feb (page 18).

Hubby must have died of a broken heart.
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LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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Re: How long are GRO certs taking?
« Reply #105 on: Friday 09 April 10 00:13 BST (UK) »
Sloe, you could be right, but I don't know. I rather think the greater amount of people will just add the date and names to their tree, happy in the knowledge they are correct. I would think it would be only the hardcore of devoted genealogists who would buy the actual cert, now they are near ten pounds.

Maybe, but the death certs are always a bit tempting as they offer not just the gory details  ;) but also the possibility of something interesting via the informant.  It's an unknown quantity, as are the witnesses on a MC.

I ordered 2 certs from GRO on the 22 March still no sign of them. Ordered 1 same day from Lancashire reg office and it arrived within a few days!!!

Yep, I have done a bit of crusading on behalf of the local reg offices!  Bet lots of people have still ordered from GRO when they could have gone the local route.  ::)

Hubby must have died of a broken heart.

You might be right there.  I had wondered if it was an infectious disease (had ruled out accident as nothing in the paper), but it was bronchitis for both of them.  It did occur to me that he might just have given up and 'turned his face to the wall' as they say.  :-\
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Re: How long are GRO certs taking?
« Reply #106 on: Friday 09 April 10 01:11 BST (UK) »
"Maybe, but the death certs are always a bit tempting as they offer not just the gory details  Wink but also the possibility of something interesting via the informant.  It's an unknown quantity, as are the witnesses on a MC."

I agree 100%. Having bought all the certificates more or less for the Scottish side  only too well aware of how incomplete a tree, any tree, truly is without ALL the certs, and all the extra details and secrets they so often contain. This is why it really pains me to think of them being put even further out of reach here, for a lot of people, in England with the price rise.   I suppose though the GRO will ultimately go for whatever system makes them the most money, which is why I hope their intended system, if just an improved index and higher priced certs, once implemented does not. Not out of spite to them, but because it wont be good for English genealogy and will only serve to cement us in our position even further behind the Scots, perhaps permanently. That cannot be good!

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Deverdun, Bachelier, Hannoteau, Martin, Ledoux, Dumoutier, Lespine, Montenont, Picard, Desmarets - Paris & Picardy/Amsterdam/London
Mourgue, Chambon, Chabot - Languedoc/London

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Re: How long are GRO certs taking?
« Reply #107 on: Friday 09 April 10 09:04 BST (UK) »
Finally............ my cert arrived yesterday! Even taking into account hols etc., 15 days seems to be a long time for a priority order.

What was the date on the bottom of the cert?

The rest of the time the cert has been in the postal service.

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