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Offline Zen rabbit

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Re: Help! missing Bournes
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 22 April 10 12:42 BST (UK) »
I also wanted to thank you and say that your link to Sampson has opened up quite a huge potential vista going back to the 1600's and may be further, if everything checks out. I have been caught out before with Stantons in accepting lots of IGI dates at face value. I get all excited by the thrill of discovery then have to back track. Mind you it is fun  :)
On the Bournes there is still that marriage of Thomas and Fanny in St John's Old Haymarket that bugs me. His occupation is given as blacksmith rather than painter as it is in the 1841 census. But there was a Fanny (Frances) Smith christened in Burslem father James Smith according to IGI ( I would have to look it up again as I didn't put much weight on it at the time). Thomas has a son often refered to as Smith Bourne and indeed there is a birth record at Staffs reg office where he is listed as Smith Bourne. However I have a pretty conclusive death record where he is named James Smith Bourne, also his son is James Smith Bourne. Which is why I am still pondering a link between Thomas and Frances Smith.
I have sent off for a book on the Herculaneum Pottery, which seems to have been a self contained unit based somewhat on Wedgewoods Etruria pottery. I also believe that it had its own Methodist chapel as apparently there were no other churches nearby so it may potentially hold records that might interest me.
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Re: Help! missing Bournes
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 19 January 21 12:10 GMT (UK) »
I have just seen this thread and I am very interested whether your Thomas connects to my Joseph.
My wife is descended from Joseph Bourne born1854 in Tunstall

Joseph's father Thomas Bourne married three times, Susannah Rowley Ford in 1849; Margery Lightfoot in 1858 and Maria Dicken in 1875.

The 1851 census suggests Thomas was born in Manchester in 1828. This record  fits with the first marriage and the birth of their first son Thomas born 1850 (this birth is transcribed incorrectly on ancestry as 1860). This record links Tunstall and Manchester

Thomas marries 3 times and his name changes from Bourne to Burne to Burn. His place of birth changes from Manchester (1851) to Tunstall (1861 and 1871) to Uldom Lancashire (1881) His father’s name changes from Thomas (first and second marriages) to John (third marriage). He was a slip maker in a pottery in 1851 and in his marriage records gives his father’s occupation as a potter.

I am looking for a pottery industry in/near Manchester and transfer of labour to and from Tunstall / Burslem I can investigate? This thread mentions Ralph Mansfield for which I believe the Mansfield family is a small DNA match via Sarah Bourne. I need to check

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you