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Re: WALLER family Victoria
« Reply #27 on: Wednesday 21 April 10 07:48 BST (UK) »
Well found Cando ;D

possible death but the age is out slightly

WALLER  Jno Thos died aged 59 in 1903 at Kew, Victoria reg no 13875
parents unknown


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Re: WALLER family Victoria
« Reply #28 on: Wednesday 21 April 10 08:00 BST (UK) »
Death in NSW
reg no 16042/1928  WALLER  GEORGE S 
father GEORGE 
mother CHARLOTTE
registration district
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Re: WALLER family Victoria
« Reply #29 on: Wednesday 21 April 10 08:54 BST (UK) »
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possible death but the age is out slightly
Jenn

I cannot find another Charlotte on the death indexes and ages on shipping indexes are rarely correct.  Only 3 years difference with the years of birth of Charlotte on the passenger record and the death reg.  I guess the certificate would reveal all :)

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Edmund Robert WALLER married Agnes ROBERTSON, 1866 Victoria.
Kala

Do you have this certificate?  Are the groom's parents George and Charlotte FAULKNER?

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Re: WALLER family Victoria
« Reply #30 on: Wednesday 21 April 10 10:07 BST (UK) »
Quote from: cando on Wednesday 21 April 10 08:54 BST (UK)
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possible death but the age is out slightly
Jenn

I cannot find another Charlotte on the death indexes and ages on shipping indexes are rarely correct.  Only 3 years difference with the years of birth of Charlotte on the passenger record and the death reg.  I guess the certificate would reveal all :)

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Edmund Robert WALLER married Agnes ROBERTSON, 1866 Victoria.
Kala

Do you have this certificate?  Are the groom's parents George and Charlotte FAULKNER?

Cando



Cando   
possible death but the age is out slightly
referred to

WALLER  Jno Thos died aged 59 in 1903 at Kew, Victoria reg no 13875
parents unknown

not Charlotte
thanks Jenn
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TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
VAN REYK Sri Lanka
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Re: WALLER family Victoria
« Reply #31 on: Wednesday 21 April 10 18:44 BST (UK) »
Quote from: kala on Wednesday 21 April 10 04:09 BST (UK)

I have been having a browse & can see these, the marriage was posted above by Sue.

This marriage in NZ: Agnes  Waller + John  Taw  1887/2385 matches with this death in NZ:  Taw  Agnes  43yrs 1895/2742

So it doesn't match with Agnes Waller (mother) remarriage or death or Agnes Patullo Waller (daughter) she married Kealey in 1899 & died in 1950 so I don't know who it is? But it is an oddity.


Hi Kala

Hmm ... and there's also this New Zealand birth.   ???

1881 - TAW - Charles James

Parents:    Agnes and John


Could this Agnes TAW who dies in 1895, be the former wife of Edmund Robert WALLER snr. ? 

Yes, I know her "age at death" (43 - bc 1852) doesn't stack up with the Agnes b.c. 1845 ... but ... ?    :D

*  So, who is the Agnes having a child with John TAW in 1881 ?   ::)  ;D

[This TAW surname is somewhat rare in NZ records, just the deaths of Agnes, John and Elizabeth, two births 1881 + 1907 (father, John) ... and two marriages for John.   Can't immediately see anything further for Charles James TAW, (nor John Philip TAW b. 1907 to Elizabeth & John.) ]

I guess there's the question too about how John Taw WALLER (b. VIC 1877), got his name ?   

~  Lu

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Re: WALLER family Victoria
« Reply #32 on: Wednesday 21 April 10 18:55 BST (UK) »
Quote from: sue21757 on Wednesday 21 April 10 00:40 BST (UK)

There is this probate ,wondering if he dropped the Waller name

TAW John
Auckland
Master Mariner     
1916


 :)

This probate file relates to John TAW - d. 1916 aged 64 years (born circa 1852).

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Re: WALLER family Victoria
« Reply #33 on: Wednesday 21 April 10 23:15 BST (UK) »
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Unassisted Inward Passenger Lists to Victoria

Name: WALLER
Date: NOV 1859
Ship: Champion of Seas

Geo, age 50yrs
Mrs, age 40yrs
John Thos, age 20yrs
Eliza, age 18yrs
Edmd R, age 16yrs
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WALLER  Jno Thos died aged 59 in 1903 at Kew, Victoria reg no 13875
parents unknown
Jenn

Inquest -
WALLER John Thomas
1903  Ref#1162
 
Place of death [Kew] and subsequent inquest could indicate death at Kew Asylum.  Perhaps this is the reason, if it is your John T WALLER, that the age is incorrect.

Cheers
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Re: WALLER family Victoria
« Reply #34 on: Wednesday 21 April 10 23:29 BST (UK) »
Mmm ... don't know if there are any coincidences to be had, here ?

From Sue's earlier post >

NZ Maritime Index
WALLER - John Taw - Engineer - 1905
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"Countess of Ranfurly" of Sydney
From Port of Vila (New Hebrides) to Sydney 9 February 1909
Crew

TAW - C.   -- Engineer --  age 26 -- Native place, Auckland
[Source:  Mariners in Australian Waters ]

C. TAW is very possibly the child "Charles James TAW" born 1881 in NZ ?

Sorry, I don't have access to NZ school records which might hopefully confirm a "Mr TAW" as guardian of the WALLER children.   And maybe it is just coincidence that the WALLER boy and a C. TAW, have similar occupations ?

~  Lu  

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Re: WALLER family Victoria
« Reply #35 on: Wednesday 21 April 10 23:34 BST (UK) »
NSW BMD

Marriage

2470 / 1910
TAW - Charles J.
ADKINS - Rachel T.
Reg'd. at Petersham

Death

17693 / 1943
TAW - Charles James
Parents:   James ??  and Agnes
Reg'd. at Chatswood
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