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[aniph]

There is a Private Tree on Ancestry that mentions George Rice Price Parry, born 1816 edit! born 1805, Isle of Mann.

Annie

[Lazylover]

Annie,

Thats me. I have 1805-1816 on the tree but the search only shows the first date.

[aniph]

Blow!

I was hoping it was a lead

Annie

[toni*]

A marriage - George Price and Ann Owens, 21 Jan 1838, St Chad, Shrewsbury.

and a baptism:

George Rice Price Owen, baptised 11 Sep 1812, St Matthew, Douglas, Isle of Man, son of John & Ann.

i think we need to follow these through 

[Lazylover]

 This is why ive had such problems trying to trace this gent. He drives me nuts!

Ive put a request on a Manx board for more info around the baptism of George Rice Price Owen. Ive not had much luck there though yet.

Here's the link http://www.isle-of-man.com/cgi-bin/interests/genealogy/bulletin/index.pl?rev=538309#Responses in case anyone would like to look.

[Lazylover]

A marriage - George Price and Ann Owens, 21 Jan 1838, St Chad, Shrewsbury.

and a baptism:

George Rice Price Owen, baptised 11 Sep 1812, St Matthew, Douglas, Isle of Man, son of John & Ann.

i think we need to follow these through 

Right I went to the London Family History Centre after work to have a quick look and

Baptism

George Rice Price OWEN son of John Owen and Ann Owen baptised on 11 September 1812 at St Matthew's Church, Douglas, IOM.

I had a look through a couple of years either side but didn't find any more OWEN children.

Marriage

Parish Church of Penllech, Caernarvonshire from BTs

John OWEN of the parish of Llangoglan, Bachelor and Anne PARRY of the parish of Penllech were married in Church by Banns with consents of Parents the twenty seventh Day of January in the year of our lord eighteen hundren and fifteen.

Both bride and groom marked with an "x" Witnesses were William Griffith and Hugh Roberts.

I had a look at the baptisms prior to and after marriage and the only child of this marriage I could find was;

10 November 1816 Griffith OWEN son of John and Anne, abode: Rhodfa'r dwfn, Occupation: Mariner

Marriage
The marriage between George Price and Ann Owens in Shrewsbury is user submitted. The Elder at the LDS Centre told me that as it only had a batch number it was practically impossible to trace the submitter details and verify the information....

however there is a GRO reference for the marriage 1838 Q1 Shrewsbury,18 180 so I'm not sure if this would be them or not.


I think it is highly unlikely that there were two people named George Rice Price being born / baptised on the Isle of Man during the timeframe my Mr Parry said he was. If they are the same person I know I'm never likely to find out why he went from Owen to Parry...... but it got me thinking that maybe he (a) stole the identity or (b) could have reverted to his Owen surname after 1871...as i still can't find any trace....

What do people think?

[Just Kia]

If George was born 1812 and his parents married 1815, then he would be able to use either name (of course anyone can use any name they like so long as it isn't for fraudulent purposes), or what I'm trying to say is that he probably used his mother's maiden name as well as his father's name - hence you have OWEN and PARRY (probably used interchangably or even together).

[RichardK]

Interesting that John Owen was a mariner - makes someone flitting across the sea and along the north Welsh coast more plausible.

Might it be possible to find Griffith Owen anywhere in the censuses?  Might give clues as to where his parents went.

Although the Shrewsbury marriage is a submitted entry on the IGI, it does specify which church in Shrewsbury (St Chad) - and it looks like the London Family History Centre has the relevant register on microfilm (No. 0918796, marriages 1822-1858).  If you're in London might be easier to check that than pay the new fees for a certificate from the GRO!

[Ewan]

I think it is highly unlikely that there were two people named George Rice Price being born / baptised on the Isle of Man during the timeframe my Mr Parry said he was. If they are the same person I know I'm never likely to find out why he went from Owen to Parry...... but it got me thinking that maybe he (a) stole the identity or (b) could have reverted to his Owen surname after 1871...as

He could quite possibly changed his name, that is the problem I have at the moment in identifying a person, when for some reason they have added a couple of middle names to what they were baptised with.

Richard's suggestion does look good.