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[toni*]

If Ann & John were not married when George was bp. and the vicar / curate etc. wrote George Rice Price the son of John Owen and Ann it could be assumed that they are married and Ann was an Owen, I have no clues as to why they were not married maybe Ann wasn’t old enough and her parents refused consent maybe John was already married ? anyhow for some reason in 1815 they became free to marry and did so, and George Rice Price would technically be a Parry and not an Owen and thus used this name?
Does that make sense? 

[RichardK]

That Shrewsbury marriage looks less likely - I've just found a George and Ann Price living in the parish of St Chad Shrewsbury in 1851, both from Shropshire.  Ref HO107/1992/614/31

[Lazylover]

Might it be possible to find Griffith Owen anywhere in the censuses?  Might give clues as to where his parents went.

I'll start looking for a Griffith Owen, see what that brings up. I also can't believe I didn't think to look to see if they had St. Chad's on microfilm... guess I'll be back there after work again tonight!

He could quite possibly changed his name, that is the problem I have at the moment in identifying a person, when for some reason they have added a couple of middle names to what they were baptised with.

I had one of those as well, another Parry, called himself David HAYES Parry but was baptised David Parry; HAYES was his mother's maiden name....solved that one a bit quicker than this though!

[RichardK]

Going back to the Penllech marriage - where is the parish of Llangoglan?  Sounds like Llangollen, although unlikely that a mariner would live that far inland?

[Lazylover]

It will have been written how the vicar/curate thought it sounded, so i do think its Llangollen. Many of my English friends pronounce it Langollen now!

A quick google as brought up "Llangoglan Eistedfodd" on another chat board...due to works webfilter i cant look.

[Lazylover]

I've had a reply from the Manx Board about the baptism entry for George Rice Price Owen

"Posted By: davidr
Date: Thursday, 22 April 2010, at 2:56 p.m.

In Response To: Re: George Rice Price Owen (carole davies)

Baptism. From the Manx Museum microfilm no. (106) 718. At St. Matthew's Church in Douglas in the ecclesiastical parish of Braddan.

GEORGE RICE PRICE OWEN
Son of John OWEN and Ann OWEN
baptized 11th Sept. 1812.

That's all there is.... The women usually have Alias or Otherwise written after there married name detailing their maiden name, but not in this case.

I had a quick look at the card indexes to the newspapers of the time, there were only 2 Owen's mention between 1810 and 1830:

13 Dec 1821 Joseph Owen & Co., Corn Dealers, of Drinkwater's Warehouse, North Quay, Douglas.

and

28 Jan 1823 Richard Owen, Debtor. A prisoner in Castle Rushen (the Gaol) for debt 'has filed his petition'.

No sign of any marriage of any Owen's in any of the churches in Braddan (Braddan, St George's or St. Matthew's) between 1809 and 1812 either."

If the women normally have an alias after their name to indicate married name then this would suggest (to me at least) that George was born out of wedlock....or am I just hoping?

[Lazylover]

A marriage - George Price and Ann Owens, 21 Jan 1838, St Chad, Shrewsbury.

I'm back at the Family History Centre and I've just checked out the marriage...the date is a bit off; its actually

08 February 1838
George PRICE, Full Age, Ba., Occupation: Wall (?) sinker, Abode: Castlefrigate, St. Margarets Parish, Father: William Price, Father's Occupation: Labourer

to

Ann OWENS, Full Age, Sp., Abode: High Street, Father: Owen Owens, Father's Occupation: Shoe Maker

Groom marked with an X and Bride signed.

Witness' were Richard Powell and James Webster


It looks like we're back to the drawing board with the marriage guys.

[Lazylover]

Me again! Sorry ....

I've got a possible George Parry, Tailor lodging in a place called Volunteer Inn on London Road in Surrey in 1881.

Condtion is listed as Widow. Occupation as Tailor. Birthplace as being N.K but then this has been crossed out and N. Wales written.

The age is a bit difficult to make out, its been transcribed as 50, giving a date of birth around 1831 but looking at it I think it looks more like 60 - which would put date of birth back around 1821.... I know this is a long shot but could people take a look and see what you think.

The reference is RG11/783/99 Page 47

I'll post snapshots when I get home as I've not got there yet!

I'm also interested in finding out what this "Volunteer Inn" is all about.

Thanks

LazyLover

[toni*]

the date of January fr the marriage could be when banns were read and then 3 successive sundays after enabling hte marriage to be on the feb 8th

now the 1881 census you foun dlooks promising especially if there are no other Georeg Parry's that macth in earlier census
the Volunteer Inn would presumably be an Inn where they offered lodgings
dont forget the census was 1 night in 10 years he may have just stopped for the night on his travels