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Re: WEBB George and Elizabeth
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 05 May 10 22:50 BST (UK) »
Hi

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2 sisters: Harriet who married George Mason in 1852 probably Aust also

That marriage date is impossible.   

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The passenger list has;
WEBB
George, 24, Labourer, born Wilts
Elizabeth, 25
Sarah, 3

That would make George born c 1826.
Elizabeth 1825
Sarah 1846-1847 ( she could be nearly 4 when arriving)

Harriet must have been born in Australia after 1850 so could not possibly have married in 1852
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« Reply #10 on: Thursday 06 May 10 03:05 BST (UK) »
Boy this is Bizarre let alone embarrassing.  That makes the details of this family tree book that has been written all wrong.  Deary me  - Oh well best I wait for further info from Australia -meantime
 
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Re: WEBB George and Elizabeth
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 27 May 10 00:05 BST (UK) »
Hi There
To date I have had no reply from the Australian connections so have to rely on the only information I have which is as follows:
GEORGE AND ELIZABETH WEBB;
Daughter Sara Jane Webb.
All three left England on the 18/4/1850 on "THE BRITISH EMPIRE" arriving 14/8/1850 in Sth Australia
Ships list records George as aged 24 Agricultural Labourer Wilts. England.
                            Elizabeth as aged 25
                            Sarah Jane as aged 3
I guess what I require is a marriage certificate for George and Elizabeth to establish Elizabeths maiden name first and then census records for them.
Any help gratefully accepted.
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Re: WEBB George and Elizabeth
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 27 May 10 00:30 BST (UK) »
From replies above

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Do you have;
Georges Australian Death Cert or Elizabeths?
Did they have any other children in Australia?
A birth cert of one of them may give Elizabeths maiden name. Then you can look for a marriage in England.

If daughter Sarah Jane was 20 when she married in 1862 we are looking at a birthyear of 1842 which does not tie in with the passenger list entry showing her as 3yrs old. 

Her sisters Harriet & Fanny Maria must have been born in Australia as they are not shown on the passenger list

 
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Re: WEBB George and Elizabeth
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 27 May 10 01:47 BST (UK) »
Yes I see that and have had a search myself for records in Australia - maybe if I try Rootschat Australia there maybe someone in South Australia that can find those things
Will give it a go
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Re: WEBB George and Elizabeth
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 27 May 10 02:22 BST (UK) »
Hi Houston,

http://www.slsa.sa.gov.au/fh/passengerlists/1850BritishEmpire.htm

I am not noting these births in SA Records.

Could be interest ing to note that a George WEBB and Elizabeth BURCHALL are having children in SA at the right time (just not seeing the two you mention.)

George WEBB = Elizabeth BURCHALL Dec 1/4 1854 1845 Calne 8 505

Still Looking

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Re: WEBB George and Elizabeth
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 27 May 10 02:46 BST (UK) »
Hi again Houston,

I am sorry but on further searching this IS NOT your family.

There daughter Sarah Ann WEBB = Isaac HEMPSTER 5 Jun 1869 Registry Office Adelaide. Dist Ade 79 584. She appears to have been born Mar 1/4 1847 Calne

Your Sarah Jane WEBB = Alfred TALBOT 9 Dec 1862 in Kapunda. She was aged 20

I note also a marriage in North Adelaide for Harriet a minor in 1857 (James BERRIDGE)

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Re: WEBB George and Elizabeth
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 27 May 10 03:03 BST (UK) »
Here is Fanny's marriage

GIRTZ August 24 single father not recorded = WEBB Fanny Maria 17 father unrecorded 11 Apr 1854 Res of Rev W Oldham Kapunda Dist Ade Symbol AV 18 178

entry in BISA

GRAETZ Carl Augt par J. Geo and 1st wife born 23 Feb 1835 Bentschen, Posen, Prussia died 10. Jan 1875 buried Callington SA arrived 1839 aboard the CATHARINA occupation Farmer, Carter residence Klemzig, Siegersdorf, Strathalbyn, Murray Bridge religion Lutheran
married 1854 Kapunda SA Fanny Maria nee WEBB who was born 30 Dec 1838 and died7 Jan 1911
children  Anny Elis 1854-1855, Mary Ann FLEET 1856-1910, Annie Eliz EDWARDS, LOVELAND 1858-1949, Chas Henry 1862-1941, Wm Augt 1865, Sarah Jane HAMMOND 1869-1954, Fanny Maria PEPPER 1872-1943
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Re: WEBB George and Elizabeth
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 27 May 10 03:10 BST (UK) »
They all appear to be around Kapunda  South Australia from my information.
Sarah Jane is my grandmother Marion Blanche (McLeod) nee Talbot's Mother so my GGrandmother.   My grandmother was the only one of the Talbot family that left Australia and came to NZ  
The familyhistory book says Sarah Jane died 1886
 The parents of Sarah Jane  - George and Elizabeth Webb Ag Labourer from Wilts
The only English connection I saw in a fleeting search  of Elizabeth Webb is Burchall also so maybe that is correct but hard to confirm from here in NZ
Harriet and Fanny Maria born Australia (not on shipping records)were 2 other children of George and Elizabeth Sarah's siblings
your expertise is very welcome
regards
houston
McLeod. Western Isles Scotland
Macdonald. Western Isles Scotland
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Webb. Thaxted Essex
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Gillham,Gilham Kent England
Monk, Kent England