WEBB George and Elizabeth

[houston]

I am looking for any information on George Webb born 1842
Married Elizabeth 25 when he was 24
Left England with Sarah aged 3 yrs from Plymouth London on board "The British Empire" 18/4/1850 arriving Port Adelaide St Australia 14/8/1850
Shipping lists say he was an agricultural Labourer from Wilts.
In our Australian family history book it shows them as parents to Sarah on Sarah Jane Webbs marriage cert.  who was 3 when they sailed to Australia

I would appreciate any information prior to 1850 and their life in Wilts England and Elizabeths maiden line.
Thanking you

[CaroleW]

Hi

The dates you have quoted above do not tie up

I am looking for any information on George Webb born 1842
Married Elizabeth 25 when he was 24

That means they married c 1866

Left England with Sarah aged 3 yrs from Plymouth London on board "The British Empire" 18/4/1850 arriving Port Adelaide St Australia 14/8/1850

[houston]

Hi and thank you for your quick response.
The marriage certi. of Sarah Jane webb to Alfred Talbot district of Kapunda Office of the Principal Registrat Adelaide S.A  9th Dec 1962 gives their ages as Sarah Jane Webb 20yrs (just says full) for Alfred                (No. 230643)
In the presence of GEORGE WEBB Horse Dr  and
ELIZABETH WEBB
The shipping list for 'THE BRITISH EMPIRE'
gave their ages etc., as I said previously
Yes I see that there is a discrepency.  The wedding cert age should be 32  oh dear naughty girl or was that the horse doctors influence.   Hmmmmmmmmmmm.
Was this the mistake you were trying to show me or some other?
regards
houston

[Springbok]

Hi Houston,
Welcome to RC,

If Sarah's age on marriage Cert. is correct then are you certain that the shipping records relate to your George?

To make it more difficult. there are a lot of entries on FreeBMD for Georges and Sarah Jane Webbs. but few in Wiltshire .And of course they left before the 1851 Census.

the other point I wonder about is that you say george was a labourer and in Oz an Horse Dr.Often the later profession has some relation to an earlier one. Especially where there is a connection with Horses. i.e Farriers .Ostlers blacksmiths even cab drivers.

Spring

[trish1120]

You have made a mistake with Georges birth year!
If he was born c 1842 he would be 8 in 1850 when arriving in Australia.

The passenger list has;
WEBB
George, 24, Labourer, born Wilts
Elizabeth, 25
Sarah, 3

That would make George born c 1826.
Elizabeth 1825
Sarah 1846-1847 ( she could be nearly 4 when arriving)

There are only 7 Sarah Webbs born Wilts 1846-1847 on FreeBMD
Did she have a second name that you know of?

And only a few George Webb marriages to an Elizabeth 1845-1850 in Wilts.
But they may have married anywhere other than Wilts.

Do you have;
Georges Australian Death Cert or Elizabeths?
Did they have any other children in Australia?
A birth cert of one of them may give Elizabeths maiden name. Then you can look for a marriage in England.
Unfortunately spending money on Certs is often the only way to track people back.

Trish

[trish1120]

I made a mistake myself
I missed the Sarah Jane bit!

The only Sarah Jane WEBB birth reg in Wilts 1845-1850 is this;
June 1846, Andover, 7 47

But we have no way to prove this is her without additional Australian info.
When did she die and at what age on Cert?
Does it say age 20 or of full age on Marriage Cert?

[houston]

Hi Tricia and Springbok,

I have just noted further on in this Australian Book that there was two older sisters of Sarahs also who must have also been in Aust. (they are not on the  "The British Empire" ships passenger list though )?
They were Harriet who married George Mason 1852 and Fanny Maria who married Carl August Graetz on 11th April 1854
I am sorry I thought I was doing soo well with being armed with all I knew about them but seems I may have to try and get further information from Aust.
Seems strange that they name that ship but there are two not mentioned unless they came out seperately with someone else.??

Need Info on Sarah's husband  Alfred Gerald Talbot also but will put up a new posting
Meantime will try to find out more this end.
thanks
Regards
houston

[CaroleW]

Hi Houston

Several dates given by you do not tie in here

In your opening post you say George Webb was b 1842 and that he married wife Elizabeth when he was 24yrs old.  1842 plus 24 give a marriage around 1866

But you then say he emigrated in 1850 with wife Elizabeth and daughter Sarah Jane aged 3yrs so daughter Sarah must have been born around 1847/48

Sarah Jane married in 1862 aged 20 so was born around 1842 and must have been older than 3yrs old in 1850.  If she was only born 1847/48 - she would only have been 14 or 15yrs old when she married

The wedding cert age should be 32  oh dear naughty girl or was that the horse doctors influence

You have lost me there.  If Sarah married in 1862 at age 32 - that would give her a birthyear of 1830 and she would have been 20 at the time of emigration??

If the emigration date is correct then George Webb could not possibly have been born as late as 1842

You now say that the Webb's also had two other children older than Sarah which, depending on exactly how much older they were, could mean the Webb marriage was pre-1837

[houston]

Sorry for the confusion - I see where I went wrong. I was getting Sarah Jane's marriage cert. to Alfred Gerald Talbot details confused with her parents George and Elizabeth.Start again
Sara Jane Webbs Marriage Cert.
Details on Marriage cert. SARAH JANE WEBB  AGE 20 surname of Father: GEORGE WEBB Horse Doctor.  Mother: ELIZABETH WEBB
2 sisters: Harriet who married George Mason in 1852 probably Aust also
                Fanny Maria  who married Carl August Graetz in Aust.
So George and Elizabeth had 3 girls
I am still waiting for further details from Aust so till then
houston