Stephen KESSELL Marriage

[rdfaheyfahey4]

HI Fizzy and Trish

RE STEPHEN / JOHN KESSELL

Thank you so muchn for all your work - I am very new to this and have be spending many hours trying to get myself sorted.

I spent four hours with my grandmother yesterday (in her 80s) and got pages of family information from her so have a lot to work with but nothing this far back.

With regards to John Kessell the 1861 census information you found Trish will be correct.

1861 Census
Kea, Cornwall
RG9/1563/5
John, Mary Ann and Elizabeth.

We have an old family letter that gives the details of their move to New Zealand has they moved to New Zealand with three children:
Elizabeth born 1860
Caroline born 1861
Martin born abt 1863 
thus I believe the census information above will be correct and will then hopefully connect with the Census information for Stephen.  They were all miners here in the West Coast of NZ and thus is also another connection. 

Fizzy - your marriage information would seem correct and tie the Stephen Connection also.  I am interesting in the births you found Mary Jane and Caroline.  Caroline is correct from the information I have but Mary Jane appears to be before their marriage and did not come to NZ with them - I wonder if that is the other John and Mary Ann Kessell that has been made mention of below.

  I will have a look at these details myself on the Cornwall OPC.  (I can get these online right - do you know if there is more information that we can order other than the details available online or will that be all the detail there is. 

Can you also tell me which is the best sit to look at this information on the IGI index.

Many thanks

Debbie

[rdfaheyfahey4]

Hi Again Fizzy

RE HENRY LAITY

This is absolutely fascinating. I have spent many hours trying to find an angle on this family and had the Goldsworthy information but nothing before and record of Mary Kessel and Joseph Goldsworthys marriage and presumed he had been married before and she had presumed care of the other children when he died. 

Can you tell me where you found the information regarding Henry Laity and Elizabeth Kessel and your summation of the situation does seem to be an options and probably quite logical. 

I am interested to find the birth information for William Henry Kessel to be certain he was named Kessel when born.

This is all very interesting to me as this Kessel line that I am researching thus far comes to me through my grandmother and this side of the family came directly from Cornwall to Invercargill. 

The Stephen Kessell family line that I am researching comes to me through my grandfather and I am interested to learn if they connect at some stage back in Cornwall and this family came directly from Cornwall to the West Coast of NZ. 

It is late tonight so will look at this tomorrow with fresh eyes.

I truly appreciate all the information and guidance that you have and can provide.

Many thanks

Debbie

[kitching]

Hi
Elizabeth Kessell married Joel Whitford 31st March 1864 Truro Elizabeth was age 19, fathers were Stephen Kessell and John Whitord, both fathers were dead, at the time of their wedding,
Elizabeth died 1890 and Joel wed again.
Their son Joel born 1868 moved to Barnsley and wed a Annie Sykes, they went on to have 16 children, their last son Albert was killed in Sinapore 14th Feb 1942 age 22.

[Phiney]

Hi Debbie,
I am researching some  family history as a favour for my girlfriend Sophie who has exhausted all avenues in trying to trace her ancestors.
I have managed to trace her paternal line back to her great great Grandmother called Caroline Kessell born 1861, whose brother was also  Martin born 1863.
I am almost convinced we are researching the same family , the reason being that I managed to find Martin's death notice in 1878  published in the
                Nelson Evening Mail
                 Vol XIII 20 April 1878 Page 2  which reads:
KESSELL- April20, Martin, eldest son of John and Mary Kessell Shelbourne Street aged 15 years.
Also in another newspaper was Caroline's marriage notice  published:
               Nelson Evening Mail
               Vol XXI 6 September 1887 page 2 which reads:
WORTH-Kessell On the 16th August at St Mary's of the Angels , by the Rev.P. kerrigan William T Worthy of Wellington to Carrie, second daughter of John and Mary Ann Kessell , of Nelson.
Any information about the family would be wonderful especially why they moved to New Zealand.
Thankyou  kind regards

[trish1120]

Welcome to Rootschat Phiney

The Census info I posted earlier on this query is your Friends Family.

Lots of Families moved to NZ in the 1860's for a better life and new oportunities and the chance of owning land.
There was also the Gold Rush in Australia and New Zealand.

From John and Mary Anns Marriage Record on Cornwall OPC his Father was STEPHEN, a Miner and hers JOHN, a Miner.
You have the 1851 Census for John Kessel I posted earlier and Mary Ann is incredibly hard to track down conclusively 1851/1841 Census.

Trish

[Phiney]

Hi Trish
Thankyou very much for your posting, I will keep you posted if I discover any more details. Since writing the first post I have discovered that following Caroline's marriage she went on to have at least 9 more children( she had a little girl one year before her marriage) and this girl named Vera Winifred Kessell moved to Australia sometime before 1916.
Regards: Jo

[trish1120]

Hi Jo,
That is interesting a Australia link as well. Hopefully the original posters related to the Kesells will see this soon.

Good luck,
Trish

[rdfaheyfahey4]

Hi
I have put down my family tree for some time but have picked it up again just recently and reformatting all my information.  Yes we are researching the same family line Trish.  You indicated that you are descended from Caroline who is the daughter of John and Mary Ann one of their sons was William John which is the line that I am descended from.  And their parents where Stephen Kessel and Elizabeth Pollard.  I have quite a bit of information on John and Mary Ann and documents, letters etc that I am happy to share etc.  I also have quite a bit of information that I have gathered on your family line over the time that isn't really the line I am researching but I happen to have collected it in my travels anyway.  Not sure if youa re based in NZ but I am based in Invercargill. 

Kind Regards

Debbie

[Phiney]

Hi Debbie,
                Thankyou so much for replying to my post about the Kessell family.
I am based in the far south east of NSW Australia and I am trying to help solve the mystery of why Sophie's Great Grandma left New Zealand to come to Australia during WW1.
I am wondering if you would know (as stated in your posting from 8/5/2011 ) about the letter that describes why the Kessell family moved to New Zealand  or details of the trip. It would be great to be able to provide Sophie with details such as these.
                       Sophie is descended as follows:
                                       Sophie
                                           |
                                        Howard   (father)
                                           |
                                       Allan John (GRANDfather)
                                           |
                                       Vera Winifred kESSELL (Great Gramdmother born 1886)
                                           |
                                        Caroline Kessell    ( Great Great Grandmother daughter of John and Mary Ann Kessell born 1861)
                     Thanks again Debbie
Regards: Jo