Louisa LISHMUND

[kbotts]

hey tazzie, what makes sense? did louisa mary william? i'm confused!!!!

[Muggins]

Me too!

[tazzie]

  Ok ....

  There is a marriage in 1873 Stoke Damerel District. On the page are...

 Susanna Parkhouse
 William Henry Rowe
 George Ryder
 Louisa Santillo      vol number 5b page 637.
 This is the only marriage for a Louisa Santillo That I can see. An d Susannah Ryder now matching the 1871 details for a Susannah Parkhouse appears in 1881.
 Is the name Santillo from a birth cert of one of the children?

 Louisa could have married William Henry Rowe....... left him.......could not remarry as divorce too costly....... William dies ...... Louisa then marries Charles Lishmund.
 The Charles Lishmund Cert of 1885 will give you her fathers name. The same for the marriage to William Rowe. Proof is needed to confirm or deny any of the above but Santillo   and Lishmund do not match on the same marriage.

 Tazzie

[garstonite]

  Ok ....

  There is a marriage in 1873 Stoke Damerel District. On the page are...

 Susanna Parkhouse
 William Henry Rowe
 George Ryder
 Louisa Santillo      vol number 5b page 637.
 This is the only marriage for a Louisa Santillo That I can see. An d Susannah Ryder now matching the 1871 details for a Susannah Parkhouse appears in 1881.
 Is the name Santillo from a birth cert of one of the children?

 Louisa could have married William Henry Rowe....... left him.......could not remarry as divorce too costly....... William dies ...... Louisa then marries Charles Lishmund.
 The Charles Lishmund Cert of 1885 will give you her fathers name. The same for the marriage to William Rowe. Proof is needed to confirm or deny any of the above but Santillo   and Lishmund do not match on the same marriage.

 Tazzie

and this would explain why the children were born BEFORE the marriage to Charles Lishmund...they couldn`t marry until William died
so Louisa was born SANTILLO....pat on the back for Tazzie...good research....allan

[kbotts]

Thanks tazzie for explaining all that. yes  santiilo is from a birth certificate my grandfathers frederick lishmund.


kbtts 

[trish1120]

Possible census and Parents for Louisa;
1861 Census
Stoke Damerel, Devon
RG9/1450/32/9

Peter SANTILLO, 65, Head, Mar, Musician, born Sicily/British Subject
Eliza, 42, Wife, Mar, born Devon, Devonport
Martha, 17, Daug, Unm, born Devonport
LANERZER, 7, Daug, Scholar, born Devonport
Edward, 2, Son, born Devonport
+ 8 lodgers, all Seaman

I have looked for a Birth Reg on FreeBMD using soundex and the closest I can find is;
Mary Louisa Santillo, December 1842, Plymouth
But she is 12yrs too old and does not match possible Census I found or age of Louisa from other census.


Trish

[trish1120]

1871 Census
Stoke Dameral, Devon
RG10/2134/52/7

Eliza SANTILLA, 32 (52), Head, Widow, Mangle Woman, born Ealstone, Wiltshire
LOUISA, 17, daug, Unm, Dressmaker, born Plymouth, Devon
Edward, 12, Son, Scholar, born Plymouth, Devon

Image looks like age 52 for Eliza.

Death;
Peter SANTILLO, September 1865, Stoke D, 5b 209

[trish1120]

Now I really dont want to throw another spanner into the works but

It appears Peter did not marry Eliza until September 1857
Marriage;
Peter SANTILLO, September 1857, Plymouth, 5b 400
Eliza FREDERICK is one spouse.

I cant find Martha Santillo born c 1844 before the 1861 Census so she could be Elizas daughter and a Frederick.

[CatOne]

Birth of Louisa?

Louisa FREDRICK March 1854 Plymouth 5b 265