Louisa LISHMUND

[Muggins]

tazzie -

I forgot to ask - do you mean the Lishmunds moved to America, or just visited?

Muggins

[tazzie]

  Hi ....

  The census can be found on pay for view sites like Ancestry or Find My Past
  www.freecen.org.uk
 also has Devon 1891 100% transcribed and is free.

  Charles Lishmund hd m m 38 carpenter Devonport
  Louisa                   wi m f 37 tailoress     Plymouth
  Lily                       dau u f 12 Scholar       Devonport
  Jessie                   dau u f 10    "                    "
  Mabel                   dau u f 8       "                   "
  Maud                    dau u f 6       "                    "
  Charles E             son u m 4                   Devonport
  Frederick              son u m 1                        "
 RG12/1741 F 32 P 20  AT 55Mount St.

  Charles snr & Louisa travelled in US
  Chas Lishmund aged 60 from Boston Mass to GlasgowScotland
                      Arrival 20 Dec 1913 via Halifax ship Hesperian Allan Line
                     Carpenter
   Mrs Lishmund aged 58 aborad same ship.
  I wonder if this one is Frederick/ Clifford Lishmund
  Frederick Lishmund age 20 saleman arrived 20 March 1910 Southampton from New York  White Star Line Adriatic.
  Frederick travels out on 18 Oct 1909 aboard St Louis from Southampton to New York a salesman b Devonport age given as 24.

  Tazzie

[garstonite]

Hiya Muggins.....does the name Farrant mean anything to you ?....he has a familytree as follows
LUTLEY..all in Devon..village-then year -then number
Hemyock,Devon  ...1780 to 1881......17
Yarcombe, Devon....1786 to 1823....;..3
Clayhidon Devon.....1766...................1
Awliscombe,Devon...1843...................1
I have his e-mail address if you want it

the earliest I can find is (this is nice)...1378....in the village of LUTLEY in Shropshire....so that`s where the name originates....if you google  lutley shropshire  it would appear Loughton Hall was the residence of the very rich LUTLEY family..............so we`ve gone back 650 years to Shropshire.....there are a couple of top family trees on that google where you may find some relevant info.....all the poor Lutley family were sent to Devon...ha ha.....only joking...anyway, looks very interesting....allan

[Muggins]

Hi Allen -

No, I've never heard of that name... All I know is that my great-grandfather Thomas Lutley was born in Plymouth and baptized in the parish of Bickleigh on Jan. 10, 1871, along with his brothers William and John and his sisters Mary, Fanny and Jane (apparently two younger brothers - Frederick and Frank were baptized at a later date). I had no idea they did 'batch baptisms' - seems a little odd....
Anyway, Thomas was in the British Army, Royal Engineers (Sapper #21977) when he moved to Nova Scotia. His parents were a William and Jane (nee?) Lutley, (apparently William was also a yeoman in the army). No other info....
Hmmm - Loughton Hall, Lutley, Shropshire, eh? Sounds impressive, but yes, I probably do come from the 'poor' Lutleys! 

[kbotts]

hi muggins,
louisa lishmund's maiden name is santillo. She died on 23 october 1934 and lived at 5 essex st plymouth. She did have a son frederick born 9 september 1889 devonport and died 20 november 1931 adelaide australia.He is my grandfather.

[Muggins]

Hello Kbotts -

Thank you kindly for the info! Frederick Clifford Lishmund was your grandfather? How interesting! I will have to do some digging and sort out the different tips I've gotten, as someone else (see above in posting thread) says Charles' wife's name was Louisa 'Rowe' and that they married in 1885, after several of their children were born. All I know for sure is that she was born in 1854. Would you happen to know Frederick's siblings names? Was there a Mabel Lishmund? That was my great grandmother. She married John George Buckney Horne.

Thanks again.

Muggins

[kbotts]

Hi muggins,
your mabel is my grandfather sister! I'm not sure when charles and louisa were married.
Frederick was the last born. i'm not sure but did mabel move to canada?

[Muggins]

Hi kbotts-

Yes, after Mabel married John Buckney Horne (a paymaster in the navy), he was transferred to the Canadian navy and they sailed for Nova Scotia. Their first son John Edmund Horne (my grandfather) was born during the crossing. They had 5 more children over the years. Mabel and her husband eventually settled in Victoria, British Columbia, and that's where they lived out the remainder of their lives.

Muggins

[tazzie]

   That now makes sense....

  Louisa Santillo
  William Henry Rowe appear on the same page for marriages

 Stoke Damerel 1873
 Now a William Henry Rowe b 1845 dies Stoke Damerel in 1883.
 Wonder if that is him.

   Tazzie