Johanna Turpin - birth / census

[jennifer c]

I am doing this research for a friend so all I have is the marriage of a Johanna Turpin to a Robert Spicer in West Ham Dec qtr 1911.

I can not see her in the 1891/1901 /1911.

She goes on to have six children so she is not the one in her 60's that seems to show on the census index?

Any help please.

Jennifer

[tressle]

Robert Spicer's WW1 record is on Ancestry with his marriage details.

They married on 11.12.1911 at The Register Office, West Ham. 

3 children named on the service records.

Address, 7 Griffiths Street, Canning Town. (then that address is crossed out and 7 Rivett? street, Tidal Basin inserted. He is a labourer born 1878.

Tressle

[avm228]

A Johanna SPICER died in Newham in 1970, birthdate given as 4 Jun 1893.  If that's the right person it might help to know her birthdate.

[CaroleW]

I suspect she was b Scotland as there is nothing on freebmd.

There again - nothing on the Scottish 1901 either.  Hope she wasn't born Ireland!!

[tressle]

All I have come across regarding anything like a Johanna Turpin, is an 18 year old travelling out in 1895 from Glasgow on the ship Ethiopia

Johanna TURPIN, leaving 3 October 1895 from Glasgow to New York, USA says she is Scottish.
born 1877 (Age 18) Marital status Single

Tressle

[jennifer c]

I think this lady could prove difficult, but thanks to your help I am a little bit further on.

Many many thanks for all help given.

Regards

Jennifer

[jennifer c]

I have spoken with my friend who now tells me that he lived with his grandmother and went to her funeral aahhhhhhhhhh

He said she did not have a Scottish or Irish accent, so I think we have to assume she was born in England. I have looked at the army record for her husband and Rivett Street sometimes shows as River Street Tidal Basin.

I have looked at the freeBDM for the date of birth for Turpin and there is an Hannah Turpin for the right qtr. Mile End. When I checked the 1901 census she is with her mother who is a widow and siblings, so no father to check against any possible marriage certificate.

I do not think this one wants to be found.

Any further thoughts welcome.

Jennifer

[Gaie]

Hi Jennifer

Hannah in the 1901 cenus has mother Hannah and a brother Christopher.

Baptisms:
St Botolph, Aldgate
Baptised 5th January 1896
Both to parents William and Hannah Pauline TURPIN of 21 Longfellow Road, Mile End; father's occ: compositor
Hannah Morey born 7th April 1893
Christopher William born 6th November 1895

Kind regards
Gaie

[jennifer c]

Thank you Gaie, I will keep that information in hand.

I have managed to find the 1891 ref for Rivett Street RG12/1319 18-24 could someone please check if there is a Spicer or Turpin family there?

Jennifer