Help what to try next please for EDSALL Henry David Howes

[tropicalj]

Just in case you may need these - Immigrant records in South Australia.....

http://www.slsa.sa.gov.au/site/page.cfm?u=83&c=4997

However we still haven't been able to help Jenn.

Cheers
Cando

I  have sent of an enquiry to the SLSA, to see if they might have any further details of Mr and Mrs Edsall and Child on  the City of Adelaide.

I have found their ask a librarian service to be very good in the past

thanks Jenn

[krisesjoint]

Hi Jenn,

No help with this boy I am afraid. I thought I may have been onto something when I believed I located his parents travelling to London at about the time of his birth (although listed as EASALL) but alas they return without a child. Unfortunately there are only the newspaper accounts of these arrivals and departures.

EASALL Mr and Mrs departed Adelaide for London 23 Feb 1854 aboard the IRIS. (Register)

EDSALL Henry and Wife arrived Adelaide from London 4 Jan 1856 aboard the WALVISCH Departed London 15 Oct (Register and Adelaide Times) All other passengers listed the no. of children.

EDSALL Mr, Mrs and Child departed Adelaide for London via Cape of Good Hope 5 Nov 1866 aboard The CITY OF ADELAIDE (Register) Also listed in Advertiser as Mr, Mrs and Son.

EDSALL Mr, Mrs and Master arrived Adelaide 27 Oct 1868 from London aboard the SOUTH AUSTRALIAN (Register) The passenger signed a letter of thanks to David BRUCE Esq, Commander of the Ship. These names included Henry EDSALL and Sarah EDSALL.

To be listed as Master I would expect him to be not much older than 13 which fits with the known boy.

Cheers Kris 

[krisesjoint]

I also checked for Obits but alas no children mentioned. 

Advertiser 11 Aug 1891

EDSALL - On the 10th Aug at the residence of her niece Mrs E THORPE, Parkside, Sarah, relic of the late Henry EDSALL, late of King William St, Kent Town. In her 75th year

Register 29 Aug 1879

EDSALL On the 28 Aug at his residence, Chapel St. Norwood, Henry North EDSALL aged 78 years. A Colonist of 36 years. His end was peace.

Cheers Kris 

[tropicalj]

Hello there Kris

What a wonderfull lot of information you have given me   He did like to travel a bit didn't he. 

Thanks for taking the time involved to get these records.

Henry North Edsall will was dated the 14th April, 1858 , which I obtained from South Australia,  I wonder why he never changed it to include his "sons".  One could imagine how  HDH must have felt after the reading of the will not to get anything.  Perhaps when Sarah died he might have,  but  there was no record of a will for her which did surprise me.

I do also have full details of her niece Mrs E Thorpe.

Ah  think it is going to have to be relegated perhaps to the brick wall basket. 

nil desperandum
Jenn

[tropicalj]

A further Question if I may, are there any records in  the UK for  incoming passenger for this particular time frame  1850 to 1866?


thanks Jenn

[krisesjoint]

Hi Jenn,

Sadly there are very few surviving records for British citizens arriving in the UK during this period.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/RdLeaflet.asp?sLeafletID=106&j=1#1

Cheers Kris 

[tropicalj]

Hi all I was reading this thread again. 

 I still have not found where Henry D H Edsall was born.

With DNA now an opportunity to find relatives,  I have done mine a while ago  and still have not had a match to this  man.

I have had quite a lot of matches with a lot of my forebears and have been able to fill in a couple of blanks for 2 people  who didn't know their father or mother, so that's worthwhile opportunity


Perhaps in time  this might happen

Thanks Jenn

[sparrett]

Hello  there Cando

This is a possibility I have thought of also.

Marion Agnes Edsall married Alfred George Shoebridge 1/1/1855 both were 24 years old.

Could she have had a child before the marriage.

There is no birth registration  for Henry David Howers/Howes Edsall showing in any state of Australia .

Jenn

Hi Jenn,
I don't know if you have seen this record but I will put it up anyway
Marion had 6 weeks in The Adelaide Hospital and the following information was given.

Agnes Marion EDSALL
Marital Status-   Single
Age-   24
Record Type- Admission
Birth Year-   abt 1829
Birth Place   -Maidstone
Occupation-Servant
Admission Date-9 Mar. 1853
Admission Place   Adelaide, South Australia, Australia
Discharge Date-   15 Apr. 1853
Ship-Jane & Emma

The nature of illness was epilepsy.
Her admission was by authority of the Destitute Board.

Sue

[tropicalj]

Hi sue

Yes I have seen it  she  suffered from Epilepsy  theought her life and died in her 40s
sadly  her father Henry North Edsall and her step mother weren’t very nice to her,  article in Troce where they tried to have her committed.

She came across from Tasmania to Adelaide  after her father left her there when he went to Adelaide


Thanks Je n