Help what to try next please for EDSALL Henry David Howes

[majm]

http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/1202916

Henry North Edsall an adult in 1860 in Sth Aust  in several Sth Aust papers 

fingers crossed for you Jenn  as I too cannot find Henry North Edsall popping back to England and then back to OZ with a child born c 1855  both arriving back by 1860 

[troods]

Crikeys if only we could find out who his mother was!!!!!

Henry David Howers Edsall married Eliza Jane Pincombe in  Aug 1878 SA

His father Henry North Edsall died 1878 SA omitting him from his will the only child mentioned was a Marion/Mary - his daughter.

So Henry North Edsall fathered a child supposedly (Henry DH Edsall circa 1854 - with child being born in Wales). Wow
 
Its indeed a mystery Jenn

Troods

[majm]

Jenn 

My confused  thoughts at the moment

This is as difficult as hunting out my John and Mary Smith ...  , Agree with Troods  "mystery" 

Was there any difference in the denominations HDHE's marriage and his Dad's funeral perhaps if so, then that may be why HDHE was not mentioned in HNE's will.

If  HNE on the Lady Bird in Feb 1854, then there's not much calendar left for HDHE's birth in Wales 

JM

[tropicalj]

Hi there,

Could there be several families in Tas in 1840's with surname Edsall

Not sure, if this helps find Henry's origins but at Tas Archives Office's online index  arrivals and departures for Edsall,
Arriving on Bardaster on 10  Dec 1837, there's Brook, Edward, Eliza, Hellen, Mary and Samuel

Two departures for surname Edsall
On Raven, from Launceston 6 Sept 1849 to Port Phillip (Melbourne) Mrs Edsall ex Bardaster  2 children born in the Colonies, each noted as child of Mrs ;  Brook born in the Colonies
On Lady Bird, from Launceston 28 Feb 1854, Mr Edsall, having arrived in Tas on Lady Bird     


http://www.archives.tas.gov.au/nameindexes  (Tas Archives accepts submitted entries  

Cheers,  JM

Yes JM have got all this information

but do appreciate your looking

thanks Jenn

[tropicalj]

Crikeys if only we could find out who his mother was!!!!!

Henry David Howers Edsall married Eliza Jane Pincombe in  Aug 1878 SA

His father Henry North Edsall died 1878 SA omitting him from his will the only child mentioned was a Marion/Mary - his daughter.

So Henry North Edsall fathered a child supposedly (Henry DH Edsall circa 1854 - with child being born in Wales). Wow
 
Its indeed a mystery Jenn

Troods

There in lies the mystery
did he father a child or did he adopt a child?

Thanks Jenn

[cando]

Mind's a bit fuzzy today...and I may not have absorbed all the facts correctly, however Jenn have you considered that he could be Marion's child and thought Henry Snr was his dad and therefore Henry 'the son' would think he was born Wales when he may have been anywhere.  Just to add a little confusion

Summed up well by Sue

We do know so well don't we that people often truly believe they were born one place and it was in fact another.

Sue

Cheers
Cando

[tropicalj]

Hello  there Cando

This is a possibility I have thought of also.

Marion Agnes Edsall married Alfred George Shoebridge 1/1/1855 both were 24 years old.

Could she have had a child before the marriage.

There is no birth registration  for Henry David Howers/Howes Edsall showing in any state of Australia .

Jenn

[sparrett]

Hi Jenn,
Sorry to harp on, but are you able to answer this

Do the given names of DAVID & HOWES crop up anywhere else in the family? SUE

Often as we know, a little secret can lie buried in an odd or not-seen-before given name.

Sue

[tropicalj]

Hi Jenn,
Sorry to harp on, but are you able to answer this

Do the given names of DAVID & HOWES crop up anywhere else in the family? SUE

Often as we know, a little secret can lie buried in an odd or not-seen-before given name.

Sue

Sorry Sue not to have answered you but no obvious connection no Howes//Howers too my limited knowledge 
thanks Jenn