Montrose, Angus - Genealogy

[ev]

hi Jane 

do you have the names of james thom and alice fitzgerald's children ?

ev

PS - found this -

http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?detail=1&type=P&id=329310

[hellothere]

Dear Ev,

Yes I do know of Alice Fitzgerald's and James Thom's children. Most of them except William I have traced. However I don't know anything of the Thom family from Montrose.

[hellothere]

Dear Ann,

Thanks for the advice I certainly use this resource but I'd like to see if I can get more information to make a more accurate search

Jane

[Gali]

1841 census in Montrose, Gibson Place is a John Thom, carpenter, b. 1786, Jean Thom b. 1786 and a daughter Jean Thom b. 1826
1851 census in Montrose, 13 River Street is a John Thom, shipwright, b. 1782, daughter Jane Thom, b. 1825 and a grand daughter Anne Robertson, b. 1850

The names Jean/Jane were often interchangeable ... record keeping was not statutory in Scotland until 1855 so before then there is not so much to go on.  It doesn't look as if there is a christening record for either 'your' James or the above daughter Jane/Jean. 

I can't find any other records for these people - can anyone else? 

[Gali]

Just looked in my MI book ...

Montrose Parish Church
John Thom, carpenter, w Jane Garden 5.5.1845 61, da Eliz 16.10.1844 17 (some text missing) west side MH

This couple were married in Craig in 1804, you can download the (likely scant) details from Scotland's People website. 

There is an 1841 census entry for an Elizabeth Thom, aged 10 (ages were often rounded up/down in this census) living in Ramsay Street, Montrose with a Jean Thom, aged 30 ... relationship between the two not stated

There is also a private tree on Ancestry that contains a John Thom born Montrose 1786 ... tree name is 'Anderson Mead November 2010'

[Gali]

And last bit for now ... on John and Jean Thom's 1841 census return is a Charles Anderson aged 10, born to a Charlotte Thom and a Robert Anderson who were married in Montrose in 1830. 

In 1851 Charlotte and Charles are living in Ferry Street, Montrose, she was born 1813

There are family trees for Charles on Ancestry ... he emigrated to Vic. 

[ev]

hi all 

there is a david thom born 15th oct. 1804 , baptised 24th oct. 1804 arbroath
angus , parents john thom and jean gardyne

i seem to remember a death for a david thom in Tasmania with a birth year of
1804 

ev

david thom - death 1851 launceston , Tasmania , born 1804
nothing else to make a connection

[hellothere]

Dear Gali and Ev,

Thanks for this information. Who knows if these are links to my line of Thoms? None of the chidren of James Thom and Alice Fitzgerald contain any of the names mentioned. So maybe if I told you their names maybe there might be a clue there.
James, William, Alfred, Emily, Alice Eugenia, Honora Jane and Grace Elizabeth.

From memoryI did notice a James and William Thom seamen in Peterhead in the 1841 census I think.

Jane

[Forfarian]

I would like to be of help to anyone looking for ancestors in my area.

Hi Lucia

If your offer still stands, I would very much like to know whether the local Montrose paper reported the death of William M(a)ckenzie in December 1909?

William was born on 13 January 1853, parents John M(a)ckenzie, master flour miller, and Christina Christie, and he followed his father's trade. On 4 August 1875 he married Anne Webster, and they had eleven children before she died on 4 November 1894. William then married Helen Burness Thomson on 12 March 1896. I have the 1881, 1891, 1901 and 1911 census listings of his family, and all the relevant certificates except one. He was buried in Rosehill Cemetery on 10 December 1909, and the lair book says he died on 7 December 1909, but there is no death certificate in Montrose or, apparently, elsewhere in Scotland, England or Wales. As all the events in his life took place in Montrose, this seems rather odd.

I could possibly make it to Montrose Library later in the year, but I am ettling to know the answer and would really appreciate your help.