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Offline Mike in Cumbria

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Re: Shorthand - repeat call
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 29 May 12 08:17 BST (UK) »
And from Doddridge, based on : What shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world,
and lose his own soul?             Matthew 8:36
 


Ye hearts, with youthful vigor warm,
In smiling crowds draw near,
And turn from every mortal charm
A Saviour's voice to hear.


He, Lord of all the worlds on high,
Stoops to converse with you,
And lays His radiant glories by,
Your friendship to pursue.


"The soul that longs to see My face
Is sure My love to gain;
And those that early seek My grace
Shall never seek in vain."


What object, Lord, my soul should move,
If once compared with Thee?
What beauty should command my love,
Like what in Christ I see?


Away, ye false, delusive toys,
Vain tempters of the mind!
'Tis here I fix my lasting choice,
And here true bliss I find.

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Re: Shorthand - repeat call
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 29 May 12 08:35 BST (UK) »
Well done Mike, I did wonder if it might be a sort of learning exercise.  A lot of progress in a very short time.  Thanks everyone.  Now to tackle the other pages!

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Re: Shorthand - repeat call
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 29 May 12 08:39 BST (UK) »
Good one Mike - courts - and I knew I knew that verse from somewhere!!     :D

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Re: Shorthand - repeat call
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 29 May 12 10:33 BST (UK) »
Great sleuthing everyone. It's very useful to have found a crib for those hard to read lines as it gives insight into the idiosyncracies of the author's hand and the ambiguities inherent in the system. I'm doing a collation right now, so we'll be able to see where I misread the shorthand, and where the shorthand diverges from the published text.

If anyone is interested, that is....

S.
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Re: Shorthand - repeat call
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 29 May 12 11:49 BST (UK) »
Collation done. Four classes of error:

1. Me dozing, and misreading perfectly clear-ish shorthand:

1v.c1.01 for    On    read    O
1v.c1.06 for    Pain    read    Prone    [also 1v.c1.07]
2r.c2.07 for    Lord God of all the world, on    read    Lord of all the worlds on
2r.c2.14 for    To    read   'Tis


2. Scribal error: the diarist simply gets the outline wrong

1v.c1.09 for  <C-W-T-S>  read  courts  [the shorthand clearly reads "couts"]


3. Systemic ambiguity in the shorthand: no way of knowing and I plumped for the wrong choice:

2r.c1.01 for  Doderidge  read  Doddridge


4. Variation: the diarist clearly departs from the published text. The shorthand is clear.

1v.c1.03 [This line is still a mystery. There is no way it can mean `daily I'm constrained to be']
1v.c1.04 for    Grace, Lord    original has    goodness
1v.c1.08 for    Lord    original has    O
2r.c1.04 for    ever    original has     early
2r.c2.08 for    <B-?>    original has    once  [the shorthand is unclear, but definitiely not `once']
2r.c2.15 for    Fro'    original has    and

S.
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Re: Shorthand - repeat call
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 31 May 12 10:59 BST (UK) »
Further updates. Having seen more of penndennis's shorthand pages, it looks like we have a young lady's shorthand practice, which involves transcribing hymns. The `Wm.' I thought we we had in hymn 2 is actually `Watts' (the symbols for `m' and for `ts' when written carelessly are very close). The text of hymn 2 can be found at hymnary.org.

My work here is done! Thank you again to the original hymn-spotters. I am helping penndennis identify the remaining hymns in his journal, off-thread.

S.
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Re: Shorthand - repeat call
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 31 May 12 12:15 BST (UK) »
I am very grateful to everyone for their input, but particularly stenog for obvious reasons.  Thanks all.